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<linext_> yea
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<linext_> i printed one for myself and put the photos online
<linext_> people search for "reseller ruler" (resellerruler.com) but they don't sell on ebay or etsy
<linext_> mostly people buy them over the weekend
<linext_> some people want the kit with 40" (100cm) rulers, which is a pain to ship
<linext_> i make the same amount for selling the center for $12.99 as I do for selling the complete kit for $39.99
<linext_> about i week ago i tried adding google ads so my domain (dimensionizer.com) gets hits but it's a little tricky to set up
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<InPhase> linext_: You could hunt for a second ruler supplier which ships online, and maybe size up an alternate version that fits that ruler.
<linext_> maybe, harbor freight usually owns the factories in china
<linext_> i may just ask harbor freight to ship 100 to the store and pay $500
<linext_> they don't do discounts for volume
<linext_> for most of the buyers, it's going to be a single purchase, so i'm not really sure how long demand will last
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<Virindi> wow that ruler thing prints in that orientation? with no support? sheesh there is like no bed contact
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<guso78k> linext_ did you research whether you break any copyright issues are aren't you worried about that from the very beginning ?
<J24k> I'll print one of these as demonstration object how orientation matters.
<Virindi> I would expect a good chance that it gets knocked over during the print with such a small contact area
<J24k> you should use brim or raft
<Virindi> sure. I don't like doing that because it leaves the print unclean
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<Virindi> I figure that would be extra important when selling a print
<J24k> a brim is not, and while you could  print a raft from extra support material - nothing that a scrub on sandpaper would fix
<Virindi> intuitively I think the orientation I would try first would be if you were to rotate the one in the picture by 45 degrees along the axis of the camera
<J24k> you would have the top bridged
<Virindi> sure
<Virindi> but the inner face of the top is not a critical surface either
<Virindi> dunno
<J24k> it is where the ruler is sliding
<Virindi> or
<Virindi> I would assemble it from multiple slices as separate prints :)
<Virindi> for example, printed pins and superglue
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<J24k> I made a microSD card storage where the first uses  glue - and then i found you could clip them nicely together by using slight taper  ( not using pins but rails)
<Virindi> using multiple flat parts I would think would result in better squareness than the ruler sitting against two opposing slopes
<Virindi> yeah I love printed clips too :)
<Virindi> that looks nice
<Virindi> honestly I usually use screws just because I have boxes of them and it is easy
<J24k> for that ruler cross - i think two parts is possible but you need thicker walls to take the alignment pass rails
<J24k> but then ruler will touch in the middle
<Virindi> yeah two parts shaped like a "U", rotated 90 degrees with respect to each other, and attached at the corners.
<J24k> yes simple as that or one bigger and the other is clipped inside
<Virindi> like that :)
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<guso78k> if you have a good method to remove support, I would even  consider putting it  plain on the headbed(plus seen from above) because  of mechanical reasons in use-case. removed support is not seen once the metal rulers are inserted.
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<guso78k> virindi, its nice! but you need additional screws. maybe you can even manage to add a diagonal 45 deg dovetail(one half male, one half female, ) so you get rid of screws
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<Virindi> yeah that would be nice too
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<linext_> guso78, the idea is not patentable. it's a 2d adjustable T-square
<linext_> the design and manufacturing process may be patentable
<linext_> a brim is sometimes needed for the 45 degree design depending on the filament
<othx> linext_ linked to YouTube video "The Correct Orientation to Print Boxes | Design for Mass Production 3D Printing" => 1 IRC mentions
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<linext_> if your part is getting pushed by the nozzle, it's likely the extrusion width setting is too low
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<J24k> i wonder why people need that dimensionizer cross block - are they not able to put two ruler on top of each other .. or is that for  selling 100+ different closing you need to photograph ( where you could simply put them on top of the ruler)
<linext_> it keeps the rulers are 90 degrees
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<J24k> i like this too https://i.etsystatic.com/18986166/r/il/eb1635/2534217655/il_fullxfull.2534217655_84lx.jpg  but seems to be some Christian art
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<linext_> i considered doing a design like that last one
<linext_> where the rulers get pushed down passed detents to lock into place
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<linext_> one feature that might not be clear is that the holes are slighly rounded using minkowski
<linext_> that way the rectangular ruler isn't rubbing against the plastic where the numbers are printed
<linext_> the corners rub but not the face
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<InPhase> linext_: lol. Sounds also like planned obsolescence.
<InPhase> Or inadvertent obsolescence.
<linext_> at first i was just trying to lower friction
<linext_> the screen printing on the rulers is actually very good
<InPhase> linext_: It is probably the best behavior, but it will then loosen over time with metal wearing away plastic.
<linext_> i've been using one ruler to "break in" the centers
<InPhase> A more sturdy unit might press down lightly in the middle of the ruler.
<linext_> yea, like a digital caliper's lock screw
<InPhase> You could then get a nice wide open area that would wear very slowly. The plastic would fall apart for other reasons first, probably.
<linext_> i don't think it'll do that
<InPhase> Are you printing these with PETG?
<linext_> some PETG and some PLA
<linext_> transitioning to only PETG
<InPhase> Yeah. My intuition says that's the better choice for this unit.
<linext_> PETG doesn't heat up as easily so it's a little more difficult to break in by using friction against the test ruler
<InPhase> You know, TPU might be fun to try once. It seems to be practically immortal, and will give you a different friction profile.
<InPhase> Given the application to measuring fabric, this would probably work okay.
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<linext_> agreed
<linext_> now that the weather is good and i can open the windows, i might use up the resin for my other 3d printer
<linext_> resin prints can have good optically transparency compared to PETG or PLA
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<J24k> resin will shatter if you are not using some expensive tough resin.  There are quite some lever with the ruler - so TPU may be forgiving if it get stuck somewhere
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<t4nk_fn> I think it will snap anyhow.
<gbruno> [github] zougloub opened issue #5093 (Current git HEAD - src/geometry/manifold/manifoldutils.h:6:10: fatal error: manifold.h: No such file or directory) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/5093
<gbruno> [github] zougloub edited issue #5093 (Current git HEAD - src/geometry/manifold/manifoldutils.h:6:10: fatal error: manifold.h: No such file or directory) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/5093
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<gbruno> [github] t-paul edited issue #5093 (Build issue on Gentoo) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/5093
<t4nk_fn> is that still an issue? :|
<t4nk_fn> can't remember what I did about it
<t4nk_fn> ah yeah; I made a new ebuild for gentoo, packaged.. at least clipper2 and manifold
<t4nk_fn> and then it worked
<t4nk_fn> can't exactly remember anymore if there was anyhting else, but clipper2 and manifold were the most important
<t4nk_fn> that is.. let me see if it still works ;)
<t4nk_fn> version 2024.04.19 (git cc546b31b - Sat Apr 13 11:06:41 2024 -0400) it does ;_
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<gbruno> [github] zougloub edited issue #5093 (Build issue on Gentoo (manifold.h)) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/5093
<gbruno> [github] zougloub edited issue #5093 (Build issues on Gentoo) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/5093
<gbruno> [github] zougloub edited issue #5093 (HEAD Build issues on Gentoo) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/5093
<teepee> lol
<t4nk_fn> I packaged thrust too btw.. so it's no real use posting any 'fix', I think it's up to the gentoo maintainers probably, what they want to do with it
<teepee> would you mind posting those notes on the issue too?
<t4nk_fn> I think they're well aware ;)
<t4nk_fn> oh you meant openscad
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<teepee> yes
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<teepee> ah, there's a gentoo link too already, cool
<teepee> sounds a bit different regarding the actual error though
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<t4nk_fn> I honestly have no idea of the exact workings and fixes to those errors, all I know is that it was better to just create packages for those submodules
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<teepee> indeed, I'd love to see the number of submodules reduced, easy to add but annoying to maintain builds
<gbruno> [github] zougloub edited issue #5093 (HEAD Build issues on Gentoo with EXPERIMENTAL=OFF) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/5093
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<guso78k> https://imgur.com/a/pHXYZVd its almost art ....
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<teepee> mr escher wants his cubes back ;-)
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<linext_> is that a bug or what you're going for?
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