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<gbruno> [github] t-paul pushed 1 modifications (Remove travis badge.). https://github.com/openscad/openscad/commit/fc67b1bb41c09e486caccca59d97cc492b61357b
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<gbruno> [github] t-paul pushed 1 modifications (Fix IRC badge.). https://github.com/openscad/openscad/commit/45d96e5635c18dd419fb1784348b8a7ad9c2807f
<M6piz7wk[m]> <teepee> "nope, but I really want to..." <- done https://github.com/openscad-libs/openscad-libs
<JakeSays> M6piz7wk[m]: you can also put symlinks in the lib dir. i do that to point to github repos
<JakeSays> i'm not much of a fan of submodules for these kinds of things
<JakeSays> does the thingiverse customizer actually work?
<M6piz7wk[m]> JakeSays: worked for me
<M6piz7wk[m]> JakeSays: why not?
<JakeSays> it's never worked the couple times i've tried
<JakeSays> M6piz7wk[m]: i don't see the advantage in this use case
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<M6piz7wk[m]> decentralized archive of openscad libraries and downstream management? So that i can do contribution to pegboard-peggrid that is fully integrated in the library, but does not directly depend on the library?
<M6piz7wk[m]>
<JakeSays> no, for exposing libraries to openscad
<teepee> M6piz7wk[m]: that was one idea, but it does not scale at all
<JakeSays> i dont want git repos located in that directory
<gbruno> [github] t-paul pushed 1 modifications (Update donation link.). https://github.com/openscad/openscad/commit/658f01eac4d25e1c67a3f897a7d9583ad07ee909
<gbruno> [github] t-paul pushed 1 additions 1 removals (Prevent "No jobs were run" (hopefully).). https://github.com/openscad/openscad/commit/21647c73a3ef2c138bc5513b440f7dceca0f5781
<gbruno> [github] t-paul closed issue #3953 (Remove Travis CI badge as it's no longer in use?). https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/3953
<teepee> haha
<teepee> I still have no idea what this is about, but it looks nice https://www.prusaprinters.org/prints/124049-wordle-score-badge
<JakeSays> teepee: i have no idea what wordle is, other than it's some kind of game
<teepee> yep, exactly the same level of knowledge as I have :)
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<teepee> plus that people are supposed to post those results on twitter but I think I have seen 1 so far and one talking about maybe doing it later
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<teepee> peeps[win]: what's the status of the malloc branch? if that takes a while I might rebuild the mxe images temporarily with nsis again as otherwise the current builds fail
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<linext> anyone have some ideas for 3d printed items to sell online?
<teepee> clocks seem to work :)
<JakeSays> i'd sell my clock but it's too damn hard to assemble
<teepee> those are cool, but I mean just decorative ones with classic clockwork
<JakeSays> maybe i could sell a kit. all the printed parts but the buyer gets to suffer the pain
<JakeSays> teepee: is that guy selling a lot of those?
<teepee> I don't have any numbers, probably not a lot, but even selling one is a start
<JakeSays> yup
<teepee> linext may know quite a bit more about that topic :)
<JakeSays> i've been thinking of making and selling SWD debugger adapters for arm dev boards
<linext> i have an etsy store and sell 3d printed items
<JakeSays> linext: oh cool. how's it been?
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<teepee> there's also a russian (I believe) person selling awesome door number plates
<linext> not bad, but i'm selling only a couple types of items: https://www.etsy.com/shop/FantasticGadgets
<JakeSays> hmm. i could sell my rgb house numbers
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<JakeSays> linext: lol there's some weird stuff on that site
<linext> i've sold fidget spinners and labyrinths mainly
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<teepee> it was in that style, but I'm not sure that's the actual one I remember https://mobile.twitter.com/SergeyTurulin/status/709128080653230080
<linext> might be cool to make them out of tritium
<linext> i superglued one of those little cylinders to my flashlight to find it in the dark
<linext> it doesn't require sunlight to recharge
<linext> it's radioactive
<JakeSays> LOL someone is selling benchy's for $2,343.02
<teepee> awesome :)
<teepee> gold benchy?
<teepee> or life size?
<JakeSays> lol i dont know.
<linext> got 194 reviews
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<linext> PLA brass knuckles
<JakeSays> lol
<JakeSays> lots of prints focused on penises and breasts
<linext> you'll find a lot of that if you search etsy
<linext> seems like planters and keychains sell well
<linext> i've got an SLA printer coming in the mail soon
<linext> some of my designs on thingiverse: https://www.thingiverse.com/jesse/designs
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<Guest40> hey
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<InPhase> PLA brass knuckles might actually work okay, except for the "brass" label.
<InPhase> At a certain size scale, PLA turns into quite the sturdy brick.
<InPhase> linext: So with your shower valve spacer, what do you do about the classic problem of the water slowly dripping out the bottom after the shower and it taking forever to stop dripping if you don't push it down? :)
<linext> InPhase, the problem with my shower is that the you have to pull hard on it to get it to stay in full shower mode
<linext> so jamming the spacer in there keeps some amount of water from coming out of the facet
<linext> i don't care so much about slow drips, not sure if my shower does that
<linext> i think mixing something 3d printed with tritium vials would be cool to sell
<InPhase> Perhaps use customizer and preprogrammed letters to make tritium vial words?
<InPhase> Although I'm not sure how many tritium vials it takes in one pile to be hazardous.
<linext> maybe a tritium light switch plate
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<linext> maybe a tritium vial shoved inside a transparent SLA print would be cool
<InPhase> A tiny jack-o-lantern with orange vials?
<linext> this thing might sell all right: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4882695
<othx> linext linked to "Plant Pot Stand for 4inch pot by jesse" on thingiverse => 1 IRC mentions
<linext> it lets the water out of a pot that has a hole drilled in the middle
<InPhase> The photo is the perfect storm for that. But you wouldn't want that on a porch or something.
<InPhase> Also not indoors.
<linext> maybe a key cover with a vial of tritium in it
<InPhase> For a porch you want want of those overflow cup bases so that the dirt that seeps through settles in there.
<linext> yea, the pot holders are for outside
<InPhase> But it also has to not be on dirt.
<linext> i think dirt would be ok
<InPhase> So it needs to be a not-porch that is a hard surface that you don't mind getting dirty.
<InPhase> If it's dirt, you could use it, but don't need it.
<linext> i guess
<linext> accessories for the leatherman tools tend to do well
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<JakeSays> InPhase: i prefer PETG knuckles myself
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<InPhase> JakeSays: Why not go all the way and make ninjaflex knuckles?
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<JakeSays> InPhase: lol what's ninjaflex?
<ccox> a brand of TPU, last time I checked.
<JakeSays> InPhase: a ninjaflex/lead composite would be perfect
<JakeSays> actually an armadillo/lead composite
<ccox> armadillo? possum on the half shell?
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<J22> Today  i have a Pen with retraction for you https://www.prusaprinters.org/prints/127256-retractable-pen-pip
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<Nullpoet> Does openscad support smart "mates" ex. fit a sphere inside a cube such that it aligns with one specific corner?
<Nullpoet> Surface mates, tangential mates etc.
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<Scopeuk> Nullpoet not in the base language, if you want things aligned you have to translate
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<J22> you could use resize if one size is known
<JakeSays> are width/height aliases for list[0/1]?
<J22> xy
<JakeSays> that's unfortunate
<J22> think width and height are not bound to any dimension which  makes that ambiguous
<J22> also height is z in oscad
<J22> you could write  function width(var)=var[0];
<JakeSays> right would be 0 and 2
<JakeSays> in order to zrotate something about its xy center, i need to do a transform before/after the rotate, right?
<JakeSays> i'm having trouble visualizing that for some reason
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<JakeSays> ahh got it.
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<gbruno> [github] dc42 opened issue #4076 (Feature request: allow module default parameter values to refer to previous parameters). https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/4076
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<JakeSays> woo i'm printing fast and dirty with a .3mm layer height.
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<gbruno> [github] t-paul closed issue #4014 (How to build by Qt5.15,mingw in win10,thanks). https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/4014
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<gbruno> [github] t-paul pushed 4 modifications (Update year in copyright messages.). https://github.com/openscad/openscad/commit/bd55e84787eb593f9624b520eda0a3aa3bf0edd8
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<macrofarad> Question: I've noticed openscad has a dockerhub.  Is there something like a novnc container for it floating around anywhere?
<Scopeuk> macrofarad nothing I'm aware of although some of the docker ci stuff has novnc references in it (from a quick search)
<teepee> what does that mean?
<teepee> the "novnc"?
<Scopeuk> looks to be an x11 to webbased vnc portal
<macrofarad> It's a sandbox environment.   Lots of people, myself included, use it on servers to create things like applications as web pages.
<teepee> so considering I don't know what novnc is yet, the answer is currently: not supported
<Scopeuk> from a look at there demo docker its run as a parralel service providing an x11 server for your application container to connect to
<teepee> but if you explain what's needed, it might be easy to add
<teepee> lol, based on debian/stretch? that's not happening
<teepee> well, if it uses a different container for the app, we don't need to care, so that would be ok :)
<buZz> i wouldnt recommend running openscad 'for everyone' on a vps :P
<macrofarad> honestly, I'm just looking to see what it'd take to turn openscad into a web interface on my server.  I already have slic3r and a bunch of other stuff running that way.  Saves me a ton of work when I have to switch computers
<buZz> unless you like cpu hogs
<teepee> and the example link is broken :(
<macrofarad> I'd be spinning it up and down as needed for sure
<teepee> buZz: not my problem, if someone decides to do that, that's fine by me
<teepee> macrofarad: what does it mean "turn into web interface", is that via a HTML5 desktop or something
<buZz> imho quite a stretch (haha) to call a VNC client a 'web page' :D
<teepee> why not? google docs is also a "web page"
<buZz> noVNC is just VNC , no clue why they added 'no' to it :P
<teepee> maybe it's norwegian? :D
<buZz> oh good point
<buZz> lets see if i detect vikings
<teepee> so what do we need to do on OpenSCAD side?
<teepee> I don't mind adding another image
<macrofarad> Unraid is a good example of this.  Effectively you run the docker app under host:targetport and it makes it pretty nice.
<teepee> macrofarad: is that slic3r example on github somewhere?
<macrofarad> yeah, I can grab it
<macrofarad> one sec
<teepee> I mean the default images have xvfb-run installed anyway, so it may just need a different entrypoint?
<rvt> any good alternative for thingyverse? Getting sick and tired of adding my models (all openscad) the side just does not play nice :s
<buZz> rvt: myminifactory.com is kinda nice
<teepee> prusaprinters seems also ok
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<buZz> teepee: seems its actually swedish :D lol
<macrofarad> That's the one I'm using, it has the git source and a few other things on the page, but I can get more examples if needed.  Server I run at home is a 3950X and 64GB of RAM.  Basically just runs a ton of containers and VMs with some network file share
<buZz> at least, most active committers are from sweden
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<teepee> hmm, so seVNC?
<buZz> hehe yes :D
<rvt> @buZz I will take a look at that! thanks…
<Scopeuk> VNSE ?
<teepee> rvt: if you have quick preview, and like to have the customizer, there's also cadhub.xyz (still in it's infancy though, hoping it will grow)
<teepee> and there's a frontend for thingiverse, made by a youtuber
<rvt> @teepee I usually have a customizer… But in this case it’s not supported because I use BOSL2
<rvt> Latest design.. action cam anti vibration https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5225452
<othx> rvt linked to "Action Cam :: Anti Vibration by rvtwisk" on thingiverse => 1 IRC mentions
<teepee> rvt: right, I do want to poke Kurt about adding at least the libraries listed on our libarary page
<rvt> that would be nice :)
<teepee> he's still a bit absent lately, so I did not want to intrude, but it would be nice to have some means to manage the libraries via a github repo
<teepee> the "real" package management is probably not happen very soon
<teepee> oh, I should add BOSL2 to the list, right now we only have BOSL
<rvt> historically I picked BOSL2 because that sounded more new :D
<teepee> I think that's the correct choice :)
<teepee> for BOSL vs. BOSL2
<teepee> I've not used it so much, even though it's very cool and very nicely commented
<teepee> ah, crap
<teepee> now the MacOS build fails too. when did I mention there's build issues popping up all the time? yesterday? :/
<buZz> 00:12:40 < teepee> and updates on platforms tend to break builds also
<buZz> :)
<teepee> oh, even today?
<peeps[zen]> teepee: do you think it would help simplify things much if we got more builds using CPack? it supports macos bundles apparently, and deb, and rpm
<teepee> well, it seems to be triggered by newer boost versions
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<teepee> peeps[zen]: I don't know, but it feels like a good idea
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<rvt> I only use small parts still… it’s to much to fully grasp the posibilities
<teepee> rvt: yeah, good thing it's fine to just use parts and extend from there, it certainly has very powerful stuff
<teepee> my models currently start mostly with ub.scad and the thread library from InPhase (even though ub.scad has threads too :)
<teepee> and sometimes the round-everything from Kurt
<teepee> I suppose bosl2 can do all that too
<J2236> hmm cadhub works with prusaprinter links   ( too bad not with my special characters and lib)
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<J22> teepee  hearing that makes me happy - Ü
<J22> and the links are bit long https://cadhub.xyz/draft/openscad#fetch_text_v1=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.prusaprinters.org%2Fmedia%2Fprints%2F92130%2Fstls%2F956367_46ce90da-aa88-418b-b55b-429557e353b7%2Fpolyhedron.scad
<J22> but it makes me wonder why the download links from the adventcalendar site didn't work
<J22> like there are download links .. and there are download links   ..  strange
<InPhase> teepee has an unfair ub.scad advantage: German fluency. :)
<J22> inphase  everything new and changed is  near 100% english - Ü
<J22> now there is also Star and star  besides stern Stern  (although they are a little bit different)
<teepee> InPhase: yep, that's true, but makes the readme a bit confusing as it's in english :)
<teepee> J22: I think cadhub is a bit picky regarding the content type sent by the website
<J22> so beside it is a txt file (.scad)  the  mime type is different?
<J22> teepee  you can have german live support  for ub.scad if you want ..
<teepee> it's fine, the english discussion may help other people too
<teepee> our webserver might just report application/octet-stream = binary instead of text/plain or whatever works
<teepee> it's just a guess at this point, I did not check further as I can't change it anyway
<teepee> so where do I get the new boost lib
<J22> sounds plausible  -  first i thought it was because of the download and not display ( which i too haven't figured  out  what triggers what )
<teepee> meh, debian unstable also has 1.74
<InPhase> J22: Ah. I haven't checked on it in a while. :)
<InPhase> Work has been hectic for about a month.
<J22> InPhase did you tried the Vollkreis game?
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<teepee> hum, no build issue with boost 1.78
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* peeps[zen] is sad no one uses his libraries :(
<teepee> anything to put into the library list? right now it only has the funcutils
<peeps[zen]> well, there's FunctionalOpenSCAD too, haven't updated that in a while though
* J22 is looking at peeps[zen] libs  to learn how things are done ..
<J22> Nanos gigantum humeris insidentes
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<gbruno> [github] t-paul pushed 1 modifications (Fix build issue with overloaded join().). https://github.com/openscad/openscad/commit/9b79576c1ee9d57d0f4a5de5c1365bb87c548f36
* teepee crosses fingers