03:56 <yifei1> Wizzup: freemangordon: for now maybe put the workaround in `/etc/hildon-desktop.env`? that file seems to be for device-specific details.

03:57 <yifei1> and yes `xrandr --output DSI-1 --primary` is the correct workaround for ppp

08:54 <uvos__> thats not really h-d's job

08:54 <uvos__> the kernel/ xorg should not have a dissconnected crtc as primary in the first place

11:53 <Uglyboydonc> Greetings and tyvm for the dedication to the Maemo project. Especially using Devuan, my core OS since inception. My Pinephone registers with my carrier( PureTalk (att)) and incoming call seem to work okay but outgoing call abandoned after a few seconds and no data although "4G" is displayed. Ofonod --debug commmand is not clear (to me) regarding log data destination. Any help would be great. I'm an old guy that created a C++ for DOS land survey

11:53 <Uglyboydonc> p with serial comm back in the 80's then upgraded it to WXPython and bluetooth during the '08 depression. If there's something I can help with, I have time.

11:57 <buZz> hmmm, i did make some calls with PP on leste but didnt experience that

11:57 <buZz> otoh , it was a old build

11:58 <Uglyboydonc> btw sms seems to work ok

12:02 <uvos__> Uglyboydonc: are you on devel or stable?

12:04 <Uglyboydonc> stable

12:13 <Wizzup> Uglyboydonc: fully up to date I imagine?

12:25 <kiva> Gary__: I saw your comment about Gemini PDA vs PinePhone Keyboard from logs (some days ago)...compare them again Pinephone Keyboard actually has one key more...and functions of keys up to os developers (ok..printing them to keyboard is nicse thing).

12:26 <Uglyboydonc> up to date using apt upgrade

12:28 <buZz> oh, right, i think i only tested devel on it

12:29 <Uglyboydonc> I'm game to run devel if needed

12:31 <Wizzup> Uglyboydonc: I wouldn't just yet, let's see if I can reproduce it as well (have a bit of a backlog of things to do)

12:31 <Wizzup> devel reworks much of the phone handling but it also has some issues on some devices

12:35 <kiva> Should somebody ask do they need OS for it: https://boringphone.com/

12:36 <kiva> ;D

12:44 <kiva> it seems that it will come with Android..so might be better ask can there be alternative OS.

12:44 <Uglyboydonc> sounds good, although It may be carrier specific in that on PMOS I ran the command "mmcli -m 0 --3gpp-set-initial-eps-bearer-settings="apn=RESELLER,ip-type=ipv4" in order to have cellular at all

12:55 <Wizzup> hm, yeah, that sounds like qmi specific stuff

13:07 <Uglyboydonc> I could switch carriers if I found one that worked and doesn't for me to let them direct connect to my bank account. Seems to me I swtctched to PureTalk when I bough the PP.

13:08 <Uglyboydonc> *force me

13:09 <Wizzup> is this in the US, or?

13:09 <Wizzup> kiva: would be nice if it can go with maemo yeah :)

13:10 <Uglyboydonc> US yes

13:13 <Gary__> Uglyboydonc: for my PP I'm on Boost Mobile (T-Mobile) credit card, $15 per month no contract

13:13 <Wizzup> I wonder if the settings set from pmos can positively/negatively be impacting maemo operation, since they might be sticky to the modem

13:20 <sicelo> piggz' ofono work should improve a lot of things for leste's support for pp

13:24 <Wizzup> is it merged?

13:24 <Uglyboydonc> T-mobile is a no go in my rural setting sadly.

13:26 <Uglyboydonc> It's interesting that I see PMOS modem setting or something show up in the boot data since they use modem manager

13:28 <Wizzup> where do you see that? that is a bit curious

13:28 <sicelo> Wizzup most of it, yes

13:31 <sicelo> it's primarily geared to pp, so it's good news. sfos is tightly bound to ofono, so modemmanager is not an (easy) option for them

13:32 <Uglyboydonc> I thought I did, but just looked at my old serial output and couldn't find it. :(

13:34 <sicelo> Uglyboydonc: with ofono debug, just pipe the output to a log file... standard unix stuff

13:40 <Uglyboydonc> Reading the manpage was vague to me as to test output to a specific file. I couldn't find pertinent info in the file(s) that I thought it should dump to

13:41 <Uglyboydonc> seems I had a file that was unreadable too

13:42 <Uglyboydonc> I was messing with slarm too so could be overlap

13:42 <Uglyboydonc> slarm61

13:42 <Uglyboydonc> 64:)

13:43 <Uglyboydonc> anything to avoid systemd 😧️

14:02 <Uglyboydonc> this doesn't seem right to me:

14:03 <Uglyboydonc> well I tried to paste output

14:04 <Uglyboydonc> the modem is attached to ttyUSB0 thru 4 incrementally

14:05 <Wizzup> I think that is normal

14:05 <Wizzup> there are different (usb) serials lines for different things

14:05 <Wizzup> data, commands, voice, etc

14:06 <Uglyboydonc> GSM modem?

14:06 <Uglyboydonc> and cell data for me

14:06 <Uglyboydonc> none

14:06 <Wizzup> in any case, it is normal :)

14:06 <Uglyboydonc> k

15:31 <Uglyboydonc> I read on pine64.org of someone calling H20 Wireless from another phone and having them fix 4G. Friendly neighbor's phone here I come :)

15:32 <Wizzup> let's see :)

18:04 <arno11> Wizzup: freemangordon: (for transitions slowness) blur effect seems to be the culprit

18:06 <arno11> i'm able to reactivate most transition effects with no more slowness (excepting blurring)

19:49 <arno11> Wizzup: btw the same transitions file was causing slowness apparently on fremantle as well (according to old TMO threads)

19:50 <arno11> i'll try to use it on fremantle to compare (mine is a custom one iirc)

20:09 <arno11> btw i should probably make another video to show how n900 works @600MHz max now, with no tracker and light transitions

20:38 <Wizzup> nice @ video

20:38 <Wizzup> arno11: ok @ blur, but just disabling it can be a bit confusing I think

20:38 <Wizzup> wasn't there some other transition, to make it gray or something?

20:46 <arno11> Wizzup: yes, i don't remember exactly how but possible iirc

20:50 <Wizzup> there is one called 'meego style' or something

20:50 <Wizzup> in the cssu gui

20:51 <Wizzup> brb

21:01 <arno11> Wizzup: playing with radius stuff seems enough to avoid most lags and slowdown (and keep blur effect)

21:04 <arno11> but launcher is slower

21:06 <arno11> (i mean the framerate seems lower)

21:14 <arno11> yeah definitely lower, when i disable blur again, the feeling is like 30% faster

21:17 <arno11> even TS responsiveness seems better

21:17 <arno11> anyway i'll try to use a grey 'background' and let you know

21:22 <Wizzup> nice :)

21:22 <Wizzup> arno11: I think CSSU Features configuration has the other settings

21:22 <Wizzup> it might override your work so be careful

21:24 <arno11> ok