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<humpelstilzchen[> hide the phone number if you do..
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<buZz> yes Wizzup ! edit it a bit indeed
<buZz> i can edit it for you
<buZz> say, long ago i heard its easy to make a maemo gui app with python
<buZz> which python library should i use for that, and are there any examples?
<buZz> also lol, not sure whats happening, but pressing ctrl+shift+N gets hildon in
<buZz> also lol, not sure whats happening, but pressing ctrl+shift+N gets hildon in a weird state
<buZz> depends on what program has focus how weird, with chromium it seems to hang until you press ctrl+N to make a new window
<buZz> in xterm it opens the statusmenu at top, but, -behind- xterm
<buZz> hehe
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<Wizzup> humpelstilzchen[: it's my own number, mostly unused :)
<Wizzup> humpelstilzchen[: but yeah I guess
<Wizzup> buZz: iirc ctrn/shift/n is turn off compositing or so
<Wizzup> buZz: do you want the raw/bigger video, or is the 720p enough?
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<buZz> 720p is fine but raw is better
<buZz> throw it on a http, i'll sneakernet it later
<buZz> Wizzup: does ctrl shift N do something like that for you? the 'contextmenu behind xterm' in xterm is easiest, it'll close after you tap on it
<Wizzup> can you make an issue describing how to reproduce?
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<buZz> yeah willdo
<uvos> this isent an issue
<uvos> or it kinda is but its something thats deeply rooted in how h-d works (and is broken)
<uvos> ctrl-shift-n disables composing
<uvos> while composing h-d renders the frame, without composing xorg renders the frame
<uvos> h-d makes no serious effort to sync up the real x11 windows with the clutter geometry it renders
<uvos> thus when xorg takes over it starts rendering based on the x11 windows, which are in the wrong place or dont even contain anything
<uvos> everything breaks
<uvos> it only works fully when some window is fullscreen
<uvos> thus hideing the mess that is h-d behind a spec abideing x client
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<uvos> fixing this is euqal in complexity, and indeed is the same thing, as makeing h-d work without compositing
<buZz> hmm well, not sure why we would want that on a key
<buZz> if it breaks so much
<uvos> this is something they added to community ssu
<uvos> since h-d compositing is very very slow using it often boosts the speed of a 3d client by up to 2x
<uvos> this is presumably why it exists even though it is very broken
<buZz> ah hmm, i'll try it in cloudgps i guess?
<Wizzup> it's more about games
<buZz> sadly thats capturing ctrlN and shiftN seems impossible to trigger ctrlshiftN
<Wizzup> heh
<buZz> isnt cloudgps doing opengles? its so fast and does some '3d'
<uvos> cloudgps should be doing the same thing itself
<uvos> since its fullscren
<uvos> it needs to be a non fullscreen 3d app
<uvos> 2d rendering is also somewhat faster
<uvos> i gues a easy "fix" for ctrl-shift-n would be to make it also have h-d force whatever window is on top be fulllscreen, hideing the statusbar mess
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<buZz> hmm i dont know a nonfullscreen 3d app offhand
<buZz> maybe es2gears or something?
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<uvos> any qt app that scrolls should do
<uvos> maybe qsigstoped
<Wizzup> qtwebbrowser
<Wizzup> conversations
<Wizzup> https://baltimore.craigslist.org/ele/7550887106.html well at least they're on craigslist
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<norayr> heh. pickup.
<Wizzup> so I'm still not seeing the reset/freeze with pm disabled on the d4 with psu
<Wizzup> I bet the moment I detach kernel console (and let it idle) it'll start happening again
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<Wizzup> uvos__: I think if we just load the echo cancel module, it will auto unloda itself
<Wizzup> or rather become not active..
<Wizzup> that will of course only apply if the right pulse props are requested
<Wizzup> but I think twinkle does this
<uvos> uvos__: why are you here twiche
<uvos> *twice
<uvos> Wizzup: erm ok
<uvos> Wizzup: needs benchmarking
<uvos> norayr: volentiering
<uvos> Wizzup: yeah problem with caigslist is the regional charecter
<Wizzup> uvos: what I mean is that it doesn't use cpu like I observed earlier
<uvos> Wizzup: ok
<Wizzup> the problem I think was that I made the default sink and source echo cancelled
<uvos> ok
<uvos> but then how will it be used
<Wizzup> applications request it through env variable
<uvos> the applications will need to explictly use its sources/sinks?
<Wizzup> no, just through env
<Wizzup> module-filter-heuristics and module-filter-apply should do the right things
<uvos> sure you can ovr the default sink for some application via env
<uvos> but then wont pulse use inordinate amounts of power
<uvos> just bacuse some application is running?
<uvos> regardless of if its really playing any sounds
<uvos> the problem i see here is that pa uses power for echo filtering if echo filtering is in use for any active context (or so it would seam)
<uvos> resitricting it to certain applications would then just move the problem to those applications
<uvos> unless im missing something
<Wizzup> so twinkle running doesn't start up the pulse load
<Wizzup> it's like 20-25% cpu when it is doing echo cnacel
<Wizzup> only when twinkle makes a call it starts up
<Wizzup> and when the call stops, it calms down after a few seconds
<uvos> its allso possible that cpu load here comes from not becasue pa is missbehaving
<uvos> but because a pa client is missbehaveing
<uvos> and activateing echo canceling is just makeing it more apperant
<uvos> like maybe mis keeps a stream active or something
<Wizzup> currently it seems more likely I just did it wrong
<Wizzup> it's possible mis does this I suppose
<uvos> mis is just an example
<uvos> could also be sphone for instance
<uvos> or hildon home
<uvos> any pa client thats allways running
<Wizzup> in any case, none of those clients should use the echo cancelled sink/source
<uvos> the allarm clock
<uvos> ....
<Wizzup> and I did make that effectively happen
<Wizzup> ah, I think I see what you're saying
<Wizzup> it's possible that what I did before technically was sound, but something else misbehaved
<Wizzup> in any case, I actually like the idea of pulse doing echo cancel based on requested application props, as this clearly is the 'upstream way'
<uvos> sure theres nothing wrong with that
<uvos> im just suspecting something is misbehaveing regardless
<uvos> (and wasteing some power, maybe the extra power leste uses vs plain debain)
<Wizzup> right, whatever keeps audio active
<Wizzup> well this should make itself evident quickly from basic searching
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<uvos> linux 6.1 works fine now btw
<uvos> been using it today after fixing some remaining issues with some of our patches breaking
<uvos> ill push later today
<Wizzup> great, please do :)
<Wizzup> uvos: damnit looks like it still does something dumb with ppoll
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<Wizzup> at least, I think so..
<Wizzup> yeah it causes pa to do some polling
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<Wizzup> argh.
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<uvos> ok
<uvos> so its pa being dumb
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<Wizzup> mhm
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<Wizzup> I've been trying to update some of the milestones and labels: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/milestones?direction=asc&sort=due_date&state=open
<Wizzup> Feedback very welcome, I've also deleted a few milestones that were kind of open ended and more like a label/tag
<uvos> i know, i need to disable gh sending emails, its spamms me inessently xD
<Wizzup> I'm hoping to make it so that it's easier for new people to see what's up, what we're working on, how they can join and help, but also for ourselves
<Wizzup> uvos: yeah, sorry about that
<Wizzup> I'm kind of glad lel doesn't work atm
<uvos> Wizzup: no worrys :)
<uvos> Wizzup: i gues we should go through the old bugs and sort them a bit
<uvos> i can do some of that when theres some downtime
<Wizzup> yeah, I've tried to streamline the labels a bit but I keep running into a wall when trying to decide what to do with all the current bugs
<uvos> imo
<Wizzup> most importantly it should be clear what the relevant bugs are, but we have many old feature requests
<uvos> we should delete old feature requests more agressively
<Wizzup> Hmmm
<uvos> imo for manny it dosent make mutch sense to have them as bugs
<uvos> since its pretty clear certin stuff dosent work/isent ready
<Wizzup> right, they can be feature requests in the bug tracker
<uvos> but maybe thats just me
<uvos> sure yeah that would be good
<uvos> but wadeing though lots of feature requests to find real bugs erm bugs me
<Wizzup> I've created a feature request label
<Wizzup> so we can just exclude them that way once we tag them
<uvos> thats a start
<uvos> can we make gh hide those by default?
<Wizzup> not sure, I assume so
<Wizzup> we also need to update our wiki tablets with dev tasks, maybe just deprecate them
<uvos> yeah
<uvos> the wiki is very out of date in generall
<uvos> but keeping it updated is a lot of work of
<uvos> c
<Wizzup> I've been trying to find time in my head to figure out how to reorganise it
<uvos> im bad at that so..
<Wizzup> me too :)
<uvos> not much i can do there
<Wizzup> I think everyone is
<uvos> i mostly like how pmos is organized
<uvos> maybe we can copy some of that
<uvos> also how https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices pulls the info from the device pages
<uvos> is nice
<uvos> maybe we can copy that too
<uvos> but idk mediawiki stuff
<Wizzup> I used some of their templates in the past
<uvos> kernel is on its way
<Wizzup> uvos: we can also add a 'bug' label
<Wizzup> if that's easier
<uvos> nah id rather have bug be the default really
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> I'll go through some items now
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<Wizzup> I'm going to unassign parazyd from all the issues so that others can claim
<uvos> at some point i think it also makes sense to invalidate permissions too
<uvos> we can allways give them back if he resurfaces
<Wizzup> right, that will be a bit more involved, but agreed
<Wizzup> fyi https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues?q=is%3Aopen+-label%3A%22Feature+Request%22 issues except the ones that are marked as feature requests
<Wizzup> uvos: does the new kernel contain fmg's patches for usb/power ?
<uvos> Wizzup: partally, only the ones that where also in the previous kernel
<uvos> Wizzup: idk which new ones are ready/ he wants included so he needs to comment for those
<Wizzup> ah, ok
<Wizzup> so not the ones that for example keep usbnet alive on full battery
<Wizzup> :D
<uvos> no freemangordon care to comment what you want included?
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<freemangordon> uvos: just went home after 850km drive, will ping you tomorrow
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<uvos> freemangordon: no rush
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