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<Wizzup> buZz: with ifconfig wlan0 down it seems better
<buZz> might be a bug in the driver or something
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<freemangordon> sicelo: yes, missing extcon
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<sicelo> i think i haven't been following this extcon work well enough, but i'm a little confused now - i think the aim was to do charger detection on droid 4? i understand this does work on N900 (broken in 5.19+ due to the irq issue however) ... so i'm not sure i understand why hacks will be needed for it now
<sicelo> and of course, nice to have it working on Droid 4 too
<freemangordon> sicelo: it is about ke-recv having hardcoded paths that are device specific
<freemangordon> if we use extcon, the only device that will need such hardcoded paths will remain n900
<freemangordon> I refer to it as a 'hack' because... it is a hack :)
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<sicelo> what will the others have? :-)
<sicelo> sorry for silly questions
* sicelo is surprised to see musb-hdrc in the pinephone and lime listings. didn't think it was used outside of omap
<freemangordon> it seems to be used all over the place :)
<freemangordon> the others will have nothing, like, code will use extcon and will try to find the appropriate cables
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<Wizzup> buZz: ifconfig did not help with crackles
<Wizzup> maybe lower sample rate
<Wizzup> will keep looking
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<norayr> interesting, my droid, when i left it to charge overnight, in the morning was full and reported 10 hours to empty. now it has 87% of the charge and reports 30.5 hours to empty.
<sicelo> when it has 30% charge, it will be 200 hours to empty :p
<Wizzup> when charging I don't think it tries to go in lowest power saving
<sicelo> i think he was no longer charging when it reported 10 hours ... there shouldn't be TTE while charging, only TTF
<Wizzup> upower averages
<Wizzup> freemangordon: ofono is using 100% cpu, anything I can do/check?
<Wizzup> hmmm upower uses a lot too
<Wizzup> it seems epoll keeps returning
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<Wizzup> damn, it exited when I left gdb
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<uvos> Wizzup: pretty mutch 100% sure cracles are caused by pulseaudio
<uvos> they are not there if you use plain alsa or pipewire
<uvos> while they are there on every output device with pulse
<uvos> incl wired and bt
<Wizzup> mhm
<Wizzup> so one of the reasons I was thinking of debian testing was pipewire
<Wizzup> (as opposed to chimaera)
<uvos> load-module module-udev-detect tsched=0 helps a bit btw
<uvos> more siginifcantly for wired than bt
<Wizzup> as in, if we go for testing, we might get better pipewire
<uvos> sure
<uvos> appearently you want to skip to testing :P
<Wizzup> for bt in leste we also need to set teh default class to phone I think
<uvos> best configure this in leste-config per device
<Wizzup> well bookworm is mid-2023, so maybe it's too far out
<Wizzup> uvos: right
<Wizzup> assuming we can dump random files in /etc/bluebooth/*.conf
<uvos> dont see why not
<Wizzup> maybe there needs to be an order in which it is read
<Wizzup> so debian 11 does have pipewire 0.3.19
<Wizzup> I use pipewire 0.3.56 on my laptop
<Wizzup> I think that unless we build pipewire ourselves for chimaera, we can probably forget about it
<Wizzup> but maybe that's not a problem
<uvos> i dont think there is anything wrong with pulse persay (asside from the crackles bug that may be gohne in newer versions anyhow)
<uvos> besides pulse and pw are compataibil, we arnt doing anything rn that dosen work just the same with pw (in theroy)
<uvos> so i dont see swiching to pw to be a big priority atm
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<Wizzup> uvos: ok
<Wizzup> agreed
<Wizzup> I will not bring up daedaelus for some months now
<Wizzup> promise
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<Wizzup> uvos: well I guess the echo cancel eating up cpu all the time in pulse was annoying, but there's probably a fix for that
<uvos> also is this still the case in up to date pa?
<Wizzup> yes
<Wizzup> i am looking at mpris atm
<Wizzup> I think when I next get to my car, I will be able to control mpd or mpv using the car
<Wizzup> I'll do a write up
<Wizzup> and then also help pali with serial today :)
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<sicelo> thank you
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<sicelo> while messing with serial, may also want to do the other test for tmlind (compaction)
<Wizzup> please share some info and I'll try that too
<Wizzup> I haven't been keeping up with the mailing list
<sicelo> it's the really old one ... i think you said compaction didn't make a difference, but now that you will have serial, at least to confirm and reply :-)
<sicelo> let me see if i can find the mail quickly
<Wizzup> oh, the wakeups
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<Wizzup> I am not sure if I can do that today
<Wizzup> it's not trivial
<Wizzup> but it's a good reminder
<sicelo> Subject: [tony@atomide.com: Re: Nokia N900 not hitting OFF mode since 5.9 is caused by proactive memory compaction]
<Wizzup> bt+mpris works in my car
<Wizzup> metadata and play/stop/next/prev
<Wizzup> with mpd in this case
<buZz> Wizzup: nice!
<buZz> Wizzup: using mpris-proxy? or does it work native
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<Wizzup> mpris-proxy I think
<Wizzup> I think one of the mpris things makes the x session hang ;)
<Wizzup> great
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: what about using /sys/class/udc ?
<freemangordon> also, do we plan to support more than one USB connector?
<Wizzup> I don't know if I want to think about multiple connectors now
<Wizzup> I just rescued my d4, it was unhappy and not booting because of a full disk, all of it was basically the kernel log spam when the modem disappears
<freemangordon> oh
<Wizzup> not sure if it's flaky hw, or if it is related to my bluetooth experiments
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: why ke-recv unbinds gadget driver if CDP or DCP cable is connected?
<freemangordon> this happens on startup only
<Wizzup> is this the init script?
<freemangordon> I guess no
<freemangordon> but I don;t know who controls gadgetfs
<freemangordon> is that a script?
<freemangordon> Wizzup: where is gadgetfs controlled?
<sicelo> i believe that's hildon-usb-gadgets? unless i misunderstood the question ...
* sicelo hides
<freemangordon> oh
<freemangordon> why do we want to always enter PC_SUITE mode?
<freemangordon> what if we are charging at the moment?
<sicelo> to get usbnet :-)
<freemangordon> while connected to a wall charger?
<freemangordon> I don;t think so
<sicelo> there's a comment somewhere that there should always be a gadget loaded. not sure why that's the case though
<freemangordon> yes, there should be
<freemangordon> but, we shall load one only if there is none loaded already
<sicelo> makes sense. anyway i think right now, mass storage doesn't work, so only usbnet
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<uvos> its probubly never desirable to get mass storage to work on leste...
<rafael2k> don't say this
<rafael2k> :P
<rafael2k> last time I tried it was working I think, in the PP, need to test again
<rafael2k> (after usb-net got working again in the PP)
<sicelo> worked from just pressing on the prompt? at least didn't work for me on d4 the few times i pressed it ... it's not functionality i really need, so i didn't look into it further
<rafael2k> what does it mean pressing on the prompt? mount .... - yes
<sicelo> when you connect a cable to device and pc, you get asked to choose between Mass Storage and PC Suite modes.
<rafael2k> ah, ok ok, I understood when I connect a pendrive to the phone
<rafael2k> I can mount it
<rafael2k> not as gadget mode
<rafael2k> sorry, got the conversation mid-way
<sicelo> np :-)
<rafael2k> indeed, no need for a phone appear as mass storage
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<freemangordon> uvos: why? what's wrong with mass-storage?
<sicelo> exposing 'raw' fs/partition to a foreign device is considered unsafe nowadays. it's considered better to expose it over a protocol/api that allows the host device to retain full control of access and activity on the partition/fs
<sicelo> --> mtp on android
<freemangordon> I see
<freemangordon> does mtp work reliably nowadays?
<sicelo> no idea since i hardly use it. but i think it does work fine, yes
<freemangordon> what about the speed, any clue?
<sicelo> no, sorry :-)
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<Wizzup> (sorry, crazy busy day)
<freemangordon> tested on d4 only
<freemangordon> with extcon and wiith -devel kernel
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<freemangordon> sicelo: hmm?
<freemangordon> this is PR only
<freemangordon> neither is the new kernel in the repos
<sicelo> ah, i was wondering :p
<freemangordon> I am still waiting for some feedback on several patches I have sent for upstreaming
<freemangordon> when (and if :( ) I get feedback I will push kernel stuff and maube we'll have a new release
<freemangordon> *maybe
* sicelo is busy with other things, otherwise i'm curious to build this for n900 and see what happens ... although i don't expect any issue
<freemangordon> me neither, but it would be good if somebody confirms I didn't break n900
<sicelo> i still didn't fully understand the extcon stuff we discussed earlier ... but what key things would i test? of course charging, what else?
<freemangordon> USB ethernet
<sicelo> ok. have ke-recv debs to share maybe?
<freemangordon> sec
* sicelo looks for leste n900 sd card
<Wizzup> freemangordon: we have your patches in -devel?
<Wizzup> (for kernel)
<freemangordon> I don;t think so
<Wizzup> because you said:
<Wizzup> 23:12 < freemangordon> with extcon and wiith -devel kernel
<sicelo> thanks. let me install and see .. will be a moment though, since battery depleted
<freemangordon> I am still waiting for feedback from upstream on how to fix the mess with usb phy notifiers
<Wizzup> but I guess the ke-recv stuff works regardless of kernel changes?
<freemangordon> that's what I tested - with extcon/cpcap-charger changes and with the kernel in -devel
<Wizzup> we can merge the ke-recv changes into -devel
<freemangordon> I mean that I tested with both kernels
<Wizzup> and see if it works for pp etc
<freemangordon> well, I requested a review from you, if you are happy with the commit, merge and release
<freemangordon> I can do as well
<freemangordon> just LMK
<sicelo> now i remember my n900 installation has some unresolved issues:
<sicelo> pkg: error processing package gconf2 (--configure):
<sicelo> dependency problems - leaving triggers unprocessed
<sicelo> dpkg: dependency problems prevent processing triggers for gconf2:
<sicelo> gconf2 depends on default-dbus-session-bus | dbus-session-bus; however:
<sicelo> Package default-dbus-session-bus is not installed.
<sicelo> Package dbus-session-bus is not installed.
<sicelo> Package dbus-x11 which provides dbus-session-bus is not configured yet.
<sicelo> then apt quits because too many gconf2 errors
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<Wizzup> sicelo: I had this the other day, I search logs and rafael said to remove dbus-x11 and then to install it again by force
<Wizzup> I did this with dpkg
<Wizzup> (installing the cached .deb)
<Wizzup> we should probably figure out what causes this
<sicelo> maybe missing in some repository
<sicelo> root@devuan-n900:~# apt-cache search search dbus-x11
<sicelo> root@devuan-n900:~#
<sicelo> freemangordon: both charging and usbnet work with that ke-recv (as expected)
<Wizzup> sicelo: hmm, it's something like this, I did it on my d3
* Wizzup zzz