00:08 <ioraff> I wouldn't mind. I've been using it anyway, and am working on a patch for node

02:13 <phinxy> I see kiss generates a tarball during an install of a program, is this copied anywhere?

02:28 <phinxy> What's the reason for sed > _; mv _ Makefile; in community builds? Can't sed overwrite the file directly?

02:31 <ioraff> If you're referring to the tarball that gets generated at the end of a build, it's, by default, in ~/.cache/kiss/bin.

02:32 <ioraff> most sed implementations can, but 'sed -i' isn't posix-compliant

02:32 <ioraff> ideally, we'd use ed, but busybox ed can't handle regex.

02:34 <ioraff> sed -i used to be the one exception to POSIX dylan made, but that changed eventually

02:39 <phinxy> good stuff

03:03 <testuser[m]> Hi

04:16 <ioraff> howdy

04:25 <noocsharp> o/

08:15 <phinxy> Attempting to install gimp 2.99.10. Using the patches from "kiss-garbage". configure wants gobject-introspection, i've encountered it before. is it something I just have to install?

08:15 <testuser[m]> https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/07/lennart_poettering_red_hat_microsoft/?td=readmore-btm

08:16 <testuser[m]> phinxy: u have to install goobject and rebuild atk gtk gdkpixbuf

08:35 <phinxy> good times.

11:35 <phinxy> Isnt introspection a debug thing and thus optional

11:38 <testuser[m]> it's for bindings or something

18:53 <illiliti> phoebos: noocsharp: i reworked respectful-software a bit. any suggestions maybe?

19:11 <midfavila> >respectful software

19:11 <midfavila> wat

19:15 <illiliti> ?

21:04 <noocsharp> https://github.com/illiliti/respectful-software

21:11 <noocsharp> illiliti: what software makes you pay to contribute?

21:18 <phoebos> > software must be floss

21:18 <phoebos> > end of story

21:18 <phoebos> i feel like "deal-breaker" is more accurate

21:18 <phoebos> it's end of story if the software isn't floss

21:19 <phoebos> if it is floss, there are other conditions

21:20 <phoebos> anyway, i like the idea illiliti but what do you want people to do with it? read it to make sure they follow everything? or include in projects somehow?

21:49 <illiliti> noocsharp: those which require subscription first

21:54 <illiliti> phoebos: i will make it more clear, thanks

21:56 <illiliti> i created it for the same reason the (FL)OSS definition exists

21:57 <illiliti> i just mean the different kind of freedom

22:01 <illiliti> (FL)OSS ensures freedom for its users, whereas respectful-software goes further as you see

22:06 <illiliti> maybe i'll create a badge or something, so that everyone who thinks that their software qualify can include it