whitequark[cis] changed the topic of #glasgow to: https://glasgow-embedded.org · digital interface explorer · https://www.crowdsupply.com/1bitsquared/glasgow · code https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow · logs https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/glasgow · matrix #glasgow-interface-explorer:matrix.org · discord https://1bitsquared.com/pages/chat
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<victorhooi[m]> just curious - this request - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/issues/418 - about adding some diagrams to the website - what's involved there?
<victorhooi[m]> as in, on the face of it - it sounds very simple - I assume we have the source vector files (SVG, AI, or something else?) and we just need to add it somewhere to the docs site?
<victorhooi[m]> or there's some context I'm missing here?
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<whitequark[cis]1> the diagrams are stored somewhere on
<whitequark[cis]1> * somewhere on Piotr's systems
<whitequark[cis]1> i do not possess them
<victorhooi[m]> hmm, it's these ones, right?
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<whitequark[cis]1> yes
<victorhooi[m]> do you know if he had problems finding the files?
<victorhooi[m]> I know sometimes I have trouble hunting down things...aha
<victorhooi[m]> would it be easier just to recreate it in some vector (or graphviz?) format?
<whitequark[cis]1> we haven't discussed it at length!
<whitequark[cis]1> I'd say let's hear back from Piotr first
<victorhooi[m]> oh yeah - of course! I just didn't know what the context/history was, and it seemed like something easy (at face)
<victorhooi[m]> 🙂
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<esden[m]> Hey are also on the cs website
<esden[m]> Not just printed
<esden[m]> The source files were made in either omnigraffle or affinity designer. Both payed for tools… I can share the source files… but I doubt they are useful unless others have license for the software too
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<esden[m]> If someone wants to put the effort into redrawing the graphics in something more open they are more than welcome to do that.
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<esden[m]> The issue I have is that all the open tools are either a pain to use or produce ugly results…
<esden[m]> Or both … like graph box for example
<esden[m]> *graphviz
<esden[m]> ok, just checked the files are done in omnigraffle. If someone wants those original files I am happy to share them.
<esden[m]> Catherine, if you want them uploaded to the github repo I can add them there. Unfortunately omnigraffle is a paid mac software only as far as I know. https://www.omnigroup.com/omnigraffle/buy
<whitequark[cis]1> can we convert them to svg?
<esden[m]> The compromise for the campaign was that we converted them to SVG. Those are the files found on the CS website.
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<benny2366[m]> would draw IO be an option?
<benny2366[m]> if yes I might want to do that ?
<esden[m]> benny2366 (@_discord_402173717452423168:catircservices.org) whoever does the work can choose any tool they want. I am just saying what my opinion about "other" tools is. I tried draw IO too and I still think it is pretty bad compared to Omnifraffle... that software ruined me 😦
<benny2366[m]> och it has it quirks but but it evens out when a person with quircks(aka me ) uses it ;P
<esden[m]> As I said, whoever does the work can choose any tool they want 😉
<benny2366[m]> I will give it a go , after I go voting 🤮
<esden[m]> (this is why I can empathize with people that have Altium muscle memory)
<benny2366[m]> a gaming mouse with mapable buttens helps a lot XP atleast that's how I used altium XP
<esden[m]> benny2366 (@_discord_402173717452423168:catircservices.org) go do your duty defending democracy 😄
<esden[m]> then you can help us out with drawings 😄
<_whitenotifier-9> [glasgow] whitequark closed issue #580: Flipper zero add on - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/issues/580
<_whitenotifier-9> [glasgow] whitequark commented on issue #580: Flipper zero add on - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/issues/580#issuecomment-2156349139
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<josHua[m]> that ticket I guess had two directions it could go. one way was the way it did, the other way is a NCO that spews harmonics for days
<_whitenotifier-9> [glasgow] victorhooi commented on issue #418: Add the very nice diagrams from CrowdSupply packaging on the website - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/issues/418#issuecomment-2156366774
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<benny2366[m]> I have redrawen the simpliefied block diagrama any remarks?
<benny2366[m]> already made the applet libary rectangle a little smaler
<whitequark[cis]1> that looks far worse than the original...
<whitequark[cis]1> i don't think i'm going to put it up unless it's on par with the original in terms of quality
<benny2366[m]> you know that was 5 minutes of work he 😉 just a general draft
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<ewenmcneill[m]> OmniGraffle produces pretty nice PDF exports, which are usually vector/scalable if the original are vector/scalable. PDF is what I'd probably suggest as a "downloadable" format (and SVG is probably best for "embedding in a web page").
<benny2366[m]> we are looking for something open like draw io , so OmniGraffle isn't realy an option
<ewenmcneill[m]> The source documents are in OmniGraffle. If someone wants to *modify* them I understand the desire to redraw them in something else. But if there's just a desire to *look at* them without finding the piece of card, then a PDF would probably be fine 😀
<benny2366[m]> s/an option/open/
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<Darius> drawio can export svg with embedded drawio document which is quite handy IMO
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<Darius> I made a plugin for our work wiki to edit them
<Attie[m]> My original diagrams are available here (from the FOSDEM talk)
<Attie[m]> all editable draw.io PNGs, feel free to use / modify
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<victorhooi[m]> I'm happy to buy a license for omnigraffle - I think I might have an older one from before, I'll just pay for the upgrade
<victorhooi[m]> mermaidjs tends to create quite pretty diagrams - would that be acceptable?
<victorhooi[m]> esden (@_discord_269693955338141697:catircservices.org) would you be OK sharing the omnigraffle source files?
<victorhooi[m]> and yeah - I do agree that you can produce very beautiful programs in omnigraffle - that's why I bought it before - graphviz is just...really great, and open, and all but kinda....ugly 😦 - I feel a bit sad saying that but it's true
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<esden[m]> victorhooi (@_discord_345327372494569474:catircservices.org) ok... I published the files including some conversions here: https://github.com/esden/glasgow-diagrams
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