01:53 <tomkeddie[m]> esden (@_discord_269693955338141697:catircservices.org) you're using it 🎉🎉🎉

01:54 <esden[m]> tomkeddie (@_discord_574338939620556811:catircservices.org) yes I am and it is great! It needed some TLC and percussive maintainance, but I figured it out and it is a wonderful improvement! 🙂 Thank you!

01:54 <tomkeddie[m]> Glad it went to a good home.

01:56 <tomkeddie[m]> I still laugh to myself at the border guy who used his allocated time with us to complain about how Portland had gone to shit. Didn't ask us anything!

01:57 <tomkeddie[m]> For those following along I drove the machine down to Portland from Vancouver Canada.

01:57 <esden[m]> Well, better that than asking "relevant" questions. 😄

01:58 <tomkeddie[m]> As you knew, I was ready for them to charge $ on import, all legit.

01:58 <esden[m]> FWIW, I also found out that electropolished stencils do work better than not electropolished ones. The solder paste does indeed detach easier from the apertures.

01:59 <esden[m]> We discussed that import charge. I was ready to reimburse you.

01:59 <tomkeddie[m]> And you spent it on beer instead.

01:59 <tomkeddie[m]> 🍻

01:59 <esden[m]> tomkeddie (@_discord_574338939620556811:catircservices.org) can I expect you at Teardown again?

02:00 <esden[m]> You should consider ToorCamp too 😉

02:00 <tomkeddie[m]> Oh yeah, am about to email Josh with a workshop proposal. More sketchy Canadian imports unfortunately.

02:01 <tomkeddie[m]> Cant do Toorcamp (everyone else should) is last week of school up here.

02:01 <esden[m]> Ohh ok, fair enough. But still 😦

02:01 <esden[m]> Looking forward to Teardown though! 🙂

02:02 <josHua[m]> which reminds me, esden, you're in Eugene? I'm going to be around Portland / Toledo, WA for a few days approx Easter

02:02 <josHua[m]> (also, will I see any of you at Latch-Up this year?)

02:02 <esden[m]> Ok... who the heck is scanning my discord chat... now I am getting PCB-A Xray inspection machine adverts in my email box... >_<

02:03 <esden[m]> Not planning Latch-Up unfortunately.

02:04 <esden[m]> And yes I should be around josHua (@_discord_256468461818085377:catircservices.org)

02:04 <josHua[m]> ok. Eugene is kind of a haul from there it looks like but if you happen to be in/around Portland any of those days, I can see if it is possible to say hello

02:05 <esden[m]> I might drive up for Hardware Happy Hour around that time.

02:16 <josHua[m]> my rough schedule right now is to fly in Thursday evening, the 28th; go for a backpacking walk on the 29th afternoon / 30th morning; fly out the 31st afternoon; see family in there somewhere

04:09 <omnitechnomancer> Discord probably are

04:10 <esden[m]> I am half joking here. I bet I was also searching for this stuff enough times that one of those data brokers picked up on it by now.

04:10 <omnitechnomancer> Probably

10:17 <refx_investor[m]> **Onlyfans leaks + Teen content here :heart: :** https://discord.gg/tiktoknsfw @everyone

15:10 <ebb> Has anyone ever contacted Crowdsupply to update their shipping address, and then been slapped with a retrospective sales tax recalculation and a demand for a few more dollars' payment?

15:11 <ebb> I am experiencing this now, and wondering if anyone else has had the same (mildly probable given the how long the order round was). Originally ordered in 2021

15:11 <ebb> *long ago

16:11 <FireFly> I changed shipping address twice (though last time was already two years ago) and don't recall any of that for me

16:11 <FireFly> one change was internationally, though all addresses were within EU/Schengen so I guess as far as sales tax goes there should be no difference

16:14 <ebb> Well, same here, the rate hasn't changed between then and now

16:15 <ebb> They seem to have shipping in the VAT (UK) in the new invoice whereas the old one excluded it

16:16 <galibert[m]> Brexit?

16:18 <ebb> Shouldn't make a difference - any kind of comparison between the rules on two different dates seems like a mistake here, to me (but I'm not a tax lawyer)

16:18 <FireFly> I guess contact their support and see if it can be sorted out

16:18 <galibert[m]> Can't say, but I wouldn't be surprised if Brexit had fucked with that too :-)

16:18 <ebb> That's the thing, I'm in a conversation with support (to update shipping address) and this happened

16:19 <ebb> I just shared in case anyone has experienced the same and could offer tips :)

16:19 <ebb> or maybe I can share how this goes in return

16:34 <FireFly> yeah, I'd be curious even if it doesn't affect me directly

16:36 <sknebel> fairly sure shipping should've been part of the VAT-amount before too, so sounds like they maybe did that wrong back then and now their system has fixed it?

19:11 <yahyeet0644[m]> Yes and it was 2.00 dollars

19:11 <yahyeet0644[m]> I don’t think it’s right

19:11 <yahyeet0644[m]> But it’s 2 bucks

19:11 <yahyeet0644[m]> It’s in the same zip code so confused as of why

20:06 <whitequark[cis]> who wants to pair with me on Glasgow maintenance in the (GMT) evenings? about a hour, on workdays

20:07 <whitequark[cis]> * on workdays, in voice calls and using vscode liveshare

20:21 <tpw_rules> i would be interested down the line but cannot this week

20:24 <Wanda[cis]> I could be up for it

20:29 <jn> if non-committal participation is possible, i'd like to participate sometimes (i.e. on a scale from 1/week to 1/month)

20:34 <funkeleinhorn[m]> I would be interested to join you from time to time too 🥰

20:34 <whitequark[cis]> yeah, no commitment is expected

21:29 <whitequark[cis]> so, hm, who's up for it ... a hour from now?

21:32 <Wanda[cis]> I'm up

22:09 <prop_head_mania[> this is a very interesting device

22:49 <whitequark[cis]> Wanda: okay lets go

22:49 <Wanda[cis]> mhm

23:01 <_whitenotifier-5> [glasgow] whitequark closed pull request #522: applet.interface.jtag_openocd: Document how to improve performance - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/522

23:01 <_whitenotifier-7> [glasgow] whitequark commented on pull request #522: applet.interface.jtag_openocd: Document how to improve performance - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/522#issuecomment-1979784702

23:03 <_whitenotifier-5> [glasgow] neuschaefer commented on pull request #522: applet.interface.jtag_openocd: Document how to improve performance - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/522#issuecomment-1979786513

23:41 <_whitenotifier-5> [glasgow] whitequark commented on pull request #506: applet.interface.spi_serprog: New applet that implements the Flashrom Serprog protocol - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/506#issuecomment-1979821072

23:45 <josHua[m]> today is not great for me but I know the "more than 2x as much work happens" value of pairing so I can join in the future

23:48 <whitequark[cis]> the reason i want pairing is just that i worked on glasgow during some of the worst periods in my life and now they're associated together

23:49 <whitequark[cis]> i can rewrite associations obviously, but it's easier if i can jumpstart that off somebody

23:56 <josHua[m]> yeah, I mean, I pair because my brain is just dramatically more productive with someone there who I can trust to keep an eye on the bullshit for me

23:56 <whitequark[cis]> i literally do not care about code when i pair

23:57 <josHua[m]> but there are many good reasons to pair and I am happy to help in any way that I can

23:57 <whitequark[cis]> like, if i can collaborate with someone on code that's useful? but i am 100% fine with a pairing partner who does not even look at my editor

23:57 <whitequark[cis]> you could be a literal cat for all i know

23:57 <josHua[m]> yeah, I found that bouncing ideas off of someone is what I really have use for, much more than the mechanics of writing programs. that's a task that my fingers just do

23:57 <whitequark[cis]> just don't put your fat butt on my enter key too many times

23:58 <josHua[m]> by 'keep an eye on the bullshit for me' what I mean is, like, if I have to do research on something, if I trust that my pairing partner will go do research while I go implement something else, that is good. otherwise I would go ADHD myself away to do that research and never come back. usually this is a bad thing but like 10% of the time the research turns up something fruitful, so that is what I refer to as 'the bullshit'

23:59 <josHua[m]> like, the distractions are in part distractions, but in part they are accomplishing something real. so if I can trust my pairing partner to assume the responsibility of being distracted by potentially important things, then I can focus

23:59 <josHua[m]> (?)