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<rwmjones|CONF> davidlt[m]:
<rwmjones|CONF> The "labltk" library: not supported
<rwmjones|CONF> seems important
<rwmjones|CONF> but I will have to reproduce it locally to really work out what's going on
<rwmjones|CONF> seems like missing tcl.h header or it cannot find it
<davidlt[m]> yeah, also RANLIB is not set to "ranlib"
<rwmjones|CONF> I'm in dublin airport at the moment so not an ideal place to debug things :-( if you want me to look could you send me an email
<davidlt[m]> So configure exploded somewhere
<rwmjones|CONF> it's a very simple package
<rwmjones|CONF> so no particular reason why it should be affected by risc-v
<davidlt[m]> No rush, things will not break if ocaml-* stuff are not recompiled ASAP :)
<davidlt[m]> Yeah, and it blocks all ocaml-* packages
<rwmjones|CONF> yup, I seem to remember it's a "root" package
<davidlt[m]> It might also be something stupid
<rwmjones|CONF> btw this was interesting - I never knew about the details of how chiplets are assembled: https://chipsandcheese.com/2022/09/10/hot-chips-34-intels-meteor-lake-chiplets-compared-to-amds/
<davidlt[m]> Saw this one
<davidlt[m]> Intel does in a different way compared to AMD
<davidlt[m]> There are actually multiple Intel or TSMC solutions
<davidlt[m]> It's interesting that Intel is using "iCXL"
<davidlt[m]> I think in TSMC language Intel is doing CoWoS (chip on wafer on substrate). There are no logic in the base tile, basically a bunch of wires to high-bandwidth low-latency.
<davidlt[m]> I think Intel also had EMIB "embedded bridge" which was a small silicon doing the same (instead of a full base substrate)
<davidlt[m]> AMD for 3D stuff is probably using TSMC SoIC (WoW or CoW) for the 3D Cache stuff
<davidlt[m]> It's really fun to see that new major advancements is now packaging :)
<davidlt[m]> Multiple chiplets and 3D stacking is now an option, just need to make sure you control voltages, thermals and power consumption of the interconnect.
<davidlt[m]> Moving data is really expensive power wise.
<davidlt[m]> But chip costs are huge these days. Ridiculous.
<davidlt[m]> I am sure the price for N3, or N3E, or anything newer will continue to increase.
<davidlt[m]> TSMC N3* family should be interested with Fin Flex.
<davidlt[m]> IIUC you can now mix high-efficiency, performance, very high performance bits in one silicon part.
<davidlt[m]> You don't need to wait and use a special optimized variant of N3 for that.
<rwmjones|CONF> yup
<davidlt[m]> Exciting times :)
<rwmjones|CONF> ok gonna get on the plane now .. I probably won't be around much until tuesday owing to funeral on monday and family stuff
<davidlt[m]> Safe travels. See you later.
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