dgilmore changed the topic of #fedora-riscv to: Fedora on RISC-V https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/RISC-V || Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/fedora-riscv || Alt Arch discussions are welcome in #fedora-alt-arches
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<rwmjones> morning
<davidlt[m]> morning
<defolos> morning ☕️
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<davidlt[m]> I didn't fully get what was the issue there
<rwmjones> it'll be some clause deep in a contract somewhere
<davidlt[m]> Ah, reading this article I see.
<rwmjones> so in fact it says: "the licenses it granted Nuvia could not be transferred to and used by its new parent Qualcomm without Arm's permission"
<davidlt[m]> They couldn't transfer ARM licences
<rwmjones> this is why they should be using risc-v right ..
<davidlt[m]> But technically is it considered "transferring" if you buy the company?
<rwmjones> that's what they pay expensive lawyers to argue about :-(
<davidlt[m]> Yeah, boring stuff.
<davidlt[m]> But Qualcomm did have their own licenses from ARM too, unless that expired.
<davidlt[m]> Ah, I see there is an update at the bottom from Qualcomm.
<davidlt[m]> Note, that Qualcomm is one of SiFive investor (public knowledge) and their are founding member of RISC-V (premier member)
<davidlt[m]> But that could mean anything (and even nothing...)
<davidlt[m]> I just hope most designs in ARM world become ARMv9 soonish
<davidlt[m]> I think, Apple might the only company doing custom cores that aren't stuck to ARMv8.2
<davidlt[m]> Apple is ARMv8.5-A thus not the latest
<davidlt[m]> M2 continues to be 8.5, so it's probably M3-M4 that would make the jump
<davidlt[m]> M1 was 8.4 :/
<davidlt[m]> SUSE tweats about StarFive KS: https://twitter.com/openSUSE/status/1565316145686667264
<davidlt[m]> Note KS page was updated since the launch, but still lacks some information.
<defolos> openSUSE, not SUSE
<davidlt[m]> Sorry, just trying to save a few chars :)
<defolos> (it might sound nitpicky, but not all of openSUSE work at SUSE)
<defolos> davidlt[m]: no worries, just didn't want to set expectations that there will be support from the business
<davidlt[m]> I think only Canonical officially supports these boards for now
<davidlt[m]> Damn, I want that JH7110 sooner than later :/
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<davidlt[m]> Nice! USB4 Version 2.0 doubles bandwidth to 80Gbps
<davidlt[m]> nirik: information and files are sent to your email
<davidlt[m]> Shouldn't take more than 2-5 minutes to get it running
<nirik> davidlt[m]: excellent. Will get it going later today.
<davidlt[m]> rwmjones: btw, our koji is now producing RPMS with dist == f37
<davidlt[m]> still need to do some fixes to f38 tagging
<nirik> how's the state of your hub? enough resources, etc?
<davidlt[m]> State is terrible, but HW is good.
<davidlt[m]> It will require rebuilding sooner than later, but right now the goal is to catch up to f37/f38 a bit.
<davidlt[m]> It's outdated Fedora, needs a bunch of redoing, incl. storage.
<nirik> yeah, keeping up with rawhide should be the best goal
<davidlt[m]> In general we have 3 very expensive NVMe SSDs
<davidlt[m]> Total of ~20TB of super fast storage.
<nirik> I think I can possibly get some aws resources for a hub if it would help.
<davidlt[m]> That allows us to do repositories in ~2 minutes.
<nirik> yeah, storage is always the fun part
<davidlt[m]> I believe Al Stone has some VM at Red Hat for that.
<davidlt[m]> We have another 100+TB in drives, but no physical server.
<davidlt[m]> I actually wanted to chat with you about infra side :)
<nirik> cool... yeah, you can also use slower storage for packages and only put repos on faster, etc...
<nirik> but yeah, happy to talk sometime (now is not great)
<davidlt[m]> Yeah, I about to jump into US meetings
<davidlt[m]> Thus later, maybe I send an email within a few days
<nirik> sure thing.
<nirik> enjoy!
<rwmjones> awesome!
<davidlt[m]> nirik: basically at some point it would be cool if could layout how Fedora/RISCV infra looks like. Like must have now and other optional things that can happen later (e.g. package signing infra bits).
<davidlt[m]> We do run a very minimal setup, Koji + certificates instead of krb5 stuff. Not integrated in any way with upstream Fedora Koji infra (like ARM Koji was).
<davidlt[m]> We use Koji to generate dist repositories and we use KS with createAppliance (appliance-tools) to create disk image.
<davidlt[m]> Really minimal, mostly followed ARMv7 stuff to get it going.
<davidlt[m]> We also have dist-git "overlay" based on Gitea, not Pagure.
<davidlt[m]> The next idea was to get Pungi going, but never found time and switch to a proper way to generate disk image.
<davidlt[m]> We will need to rebuild Fedora/RISCV infra in any way thus why not according to your ideas :)
<neil> davidlt[m]: I might be able to help w.r.t. pungi and/or disk images
<neil> also, o/ everyone :) Thank you for your work thus far on riscv64 for fedora. Looking forward to seeing how I can help
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<davidlt[m]> neil: hi! Sure! More hands are always better :)
<davidlt[m]> neil: are you related to Rocky Linux?
<neil> davidlt[m]: indeed, that's me
<davidlt[m]> neil: we are planning to go for CentOS Stream 9/10. Does Rocky Linux have interest for riscv64? (no server grade hardware yet, but there are companies working on that).
<neil> Definitely do, yeah. We have been noodling around on rebuilding some packages with a couple of StarFive VisionFive boards we have (myself and one other)
<davidlt[m]> Do you think Rocky Linux 9 would be a possibility (might require updating a bunch of packages, thus potentially breaking some rules (?))
<davidlt[m]> I would be interested into Rocky Linux 9 and beyond too.
<davidlt[m]> The current goal would be to get back on track with Fedora/RISCV being as close to upstream Fedora (hopefully becoming a better supported arch at some point). Get ready for CentOS Stream 10 (we can predict which Fedora XY version will be a base).
<davidlt[m]> I would love to see Rocky Linux and AlmaLinux happen too.
<davidlt[m]> I have to go, but let's chat later.
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