jaeger changed the topic of #crux to: CRUX 3.7 | Homepage: https://crux.nu/ | Ports: https://crux.nu/portdb/ https://crux.ninja/portdb/ | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/crux/
tilman has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
tilman has joined #crux
<ukky> jaeger: what html editor do you use to modify the content of your http://jaeger.morpheus.net/ ? Never created html before, soo looking for simple ways to do it. Is 'vim' good enough for this?
<SiFuh> VIM is fine for this. Back in 2004, I wrote a very large site using only VIM. I preferred it because the code would be very clean.
<ukky> SiFuh: thanks for feedback. Then I'll try vim first.
<SiFuh> There is a more specific one with modules called bluefish. I tried it a few times but didn't really use it.
nevoyu has joined #crux
<nevoyu> How active is development of this distro? I'm genuinely curious.
<jaeger> ukky: I use vim for almost everything
<jaeger> nevoyu: not too fast-paced... we keep things updated but mostly new versions come with major toolchain version updates
<jaeger> gcc/glibc etc.
<jaeger> Well, major in terms of features or releases... minor if you look at it from the semantic versioning perspective, usually
<remiliascarlet> nevoyu: The distro is active, but unlike most of the big distro's that release once every 6 months (or 3 years in case of Debian and Devuan), CRUX releases whenever they feel like releasing.
<remiliascarlet> But you still get the latest versions, or stay on older versions, you ultimately decide, because source-based distro.
nevoyu has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
SiFuh has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
SiFuh has joined #crux
lavaball has joined #crux
<ukky> jaeger: thanks.
<jaeger> np :)
<lavaball> i can now finally install linux!
<SiFuh> Latest episode of South Park -Joining The Panderverse was pretty hilarious.
<ukky> lavaball: funny
<remiliascarlet> lavaball: I could do so already since 1991.
<lavaball> remiliascarlet, did you have a microsoft subscription or how did you manage to do that?
<lavaball> SiFuh, they didn't go hard enough and left too much plausible deniability in there.
<remiliascarlet> lavaball: I never had any subscription with Microsoft.
<ukky> Microsoft has invented new oxymoron: "Bare-metal Linux"
<remiliascarlet> What you refer to Bare-metal Linux, is in fact, GNU/Bare-metal Linux. Or as I've been calling it recently, GNU + Bare-metal Linux.
<lavaball> what's so contradicting about it?
<lavaball> haven't you heard? they're taking the gnu out of the gnu/linux name. at least that's what i've been told. no idea how official this is.
<remiliascarlet> Alpine is Linux without GNU, so in the case of Alpine Linux, just "Linux" would be correct. Unless the guy who created busybox wants some credit, and starts calling it "busybox/Linux".
<ukky> At work we use term 'bare metal' for embedded systems running without OS at all. So, when Linux is installed, it's not baremetal anymore.
<remiliascarlet> Senator Armstrong would probably call that "NANOMACHINES, SON!".
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: atuin: 17.0.0 -> 17.0.1
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: git-cliff: 1.3.1 -> 1.4.0
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: lua51-lpeg: 1.0.2 -> 1.1.0
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: patool: 1.14.1 -> 1.15.0
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: python3-constantly: 15.1.0 -> 23.10.4
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: suitesparse: 7.2.2 -> 7.3.0
<jaeger> I assume they're using the term to distinguish between that and WSL/WSL2, maybe? Just a guess.
<ukky> jaeger: i guess you are right. That was my thought too, i.e. 'baremetal' meaning 'no Windows as host OS'.
<jaeger> yeah
dlcusa has joined #crux
<dlcusa> "Bare-metal" originated back in the '70s by IBM mainframe VM sysprogs. A bare-metal OS instance actually interfaces with the hardware as opposed to believing it does but it actually is working with virtualizations of the hardware supplied by hypervising software.
<dlcusa> It could be said that is true of z/VM as microcode in PR/SM actually interfaces with the real hardware that the Z architecture hides from all the PoP-based OSes.
<dlcusa> I'll go back to lurking now.
dlcusa has left #crux [Leaving]
dlcusa has joined #crux
<dlcusa> For the curious, read https://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/bkw/vmbasics.pdf and pay particular attention to the SIE instruction that was developed in the '80s--I don't know if Intel/AMD have that yet.
dlcusa has left #crux [#crux]
<jaeger> Yeah, the commentary was more about microsoft's use of it in this context
_whitelogger has joined #crux
dlcusa has joined #crux
<dlcusa> I have a very dim view of Microsoft's redefinition of terminology introduced by hardware manufacturers.
dlcusa has left #crux [#crux]
lavaball has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: [notify]: open-vm-tools: updated to version 12.3.5-22544099, security fixes
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: osinfo-db-tools: updated to version 1.11.0
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: osinfo-db: updated to version 20231027
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libosinfo: updated to version 1.11.0; new dependency libxslt
lavaball has joined #crux
lavaball has quit [Remote host closed the connection]