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<r0ni>
jaeger: how come when one updates a port to fix the effending health 'WARN' your portdb offers up, the new package doesn't get scanned again? (case in point elementary-xfce-icons)
<ppetrov^>
give it some time
<ppetrov^>
also, did you update he footprint?
<cruxbot>
[opt.git/3.7]: imagemagick: update to 7.1.1-14
<cruxbot>
[opt.git/3.7]: whois: update to 5.5.18
<r0ni>
it's been days, and uhh yes i think i did, that would maybe be why (runs off to check)
<r0ni>
I sure didn't update the footprint
<r0ni>
well that answers my burning question
<r0ni>
once i fix that my repo will all be green and i'll be happy
<r0ni>
i'm still finsihing up adding a few more plugins and xfburn and that should be all of xfce in the bag
<r0ni>
i still need to figure out the signature stuff... who knows where my private key is? it's in one of many places I should look for it
<r0ni>
oh ya, and i need to create some meta ports cuz i don't like how it relies on libxfce4util to pull in everything properly... change that up eventually, once i'm completely done
<ppetrov^>
r0ni, there's an article in the wiki
<ppetrov^>
you put your private signature in /etc/ports as yourreponame.sec
<r0ni>
yeah, i have my pub one since i use it and its attached to my github and stuff, its finding what machine i made that on, that i've yet to solve
<ppetrov^>
i am quite new to CRUX, and the thing that made me stay was how concise the documentation is. Basically, you can read it all in a couple of hours
<ppetrov^>
r0ni, I recently lost my secret keys, so did a major refreshment of my ports repo with a new key update
<r0ni>
I *think* i made my keys on my slackware server, cuz i use them to sign those repos... but i also could of made them on a local box i've since wiped 4x over... heh
<ppetrov^>
r0ni, are you a native English speaker?
<r0ni>
i might have even backed them up (not likely since it's not wise to put private keys online)
<ppetrov^>
only natives say "could of" :P
<r0ni>
yes, with years of bad habits
<r0ni>
'could've' is how it would have come out my mouth
<ppetrov^>
i know
<r0ni>
I used to be so proper online over 20 years ago, but my how the times have edited my language
<ppetrov^>
i make a lot of mistakes and my accent is terrible, but could of, your/you're etc i nevet mix up
<ppetrov^>
had to start reading reddit to realize these existed
<r0ni>
I guess "could have" would be proper there, but irc is where my english tends to be the worst
<ppetrov^>
anyway, sorry for the linuistic detour
<ppetrov^>
so, you may need to regenerate your keys, the update the repo accordingly
<r0ni>
ya i'll have to look for that data first, before I go and regen them... it's deeply ingrained into my github now and losing my priv would be annoying, so I assume I backed them up... somewhere...
<r0ni>
maybe there's some command i can use to verify my pub and priv on my server (I despise gpg for all it's greatness, as I've never once gave a rats ass if something was signed or not)
<r0ni>
likly why I find crux so awesome, is I no longer must blindly trust a packager, I just have to trust the software i download now
<ppetrov^>
well, i find the revdep tool indispensable now
<ppetrov^>
been doing a few ports that repackage stuff, revdep helped me greatly figuring out what i need to install as a dep.
<ppetrov^>
i mean, the program will start, but turns out some plugins miss their libs
<r0ni>
every time i'vve used revdep it has no output so i assume i have nothing broken installed (which is good news)
<ppetrov^>
you're amazing :)
<r0ni>
hahaha
<r0ni>
nah, i'm just good at looking things like that up i guess
<r0ni>
there's so many distros that have spelled out deps for almost everything, plus configure scripts, looking at defaults, optional stuff,etc
<ppetrov^>
since I use a packages repo, I am thinking of a way to generate the "true" list of dependencies for each package (since stuff gets linked to optional thing present at build time)... I'm afraid I may get into circular deps, but we'll see...
<r0ni>
ya for the gvfs port i'm re-working it to add optional things if found locally on system, but only build to support what's installed. But I need to get me a core chroot to finish it
<r0ni>
i serve pkgs to myself as well, and i honestly need to re-do all of that as well, cuz I guarantee i've got optional things built into something
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<r0ni>
might end up making a live usb with just 'core' installed for testing purposes
<ppetrov^>
yes, a core install is the cleanest way, however I really do not have the time (and most importatnly) desire to go through it
<r0ni>
heh, see that's whats wrong with me, I think that's fun
<r0ni>
its like tetris with deps
<ppetrov^>
yes, i get it
<r0ni>
I kinda have this idea to do a modular live crux, but based on what one would like to have installed
<r0ni>
so you get 'core' and add on modules, maybe 'xorg' 'wayland' 'xfce' 'sway' whatever, and build them out... and you just copy them to your usb and go... sounds like fun lol
<r0ni>
crux may be too DIY for all that, but it also makes it really easy to be able to do all that
<r0ni>
i find it odd i've never really used xfce much but having put it together on crux, i'm actually using it now
<r0ni>
it's really kind to my battery life as well
<r0ni>
hrm... I seem to be missing something optional for gstreamer that xfburn deps on. this'll be fun to find
<r0ni>
assuming it has to be cdparanoia
<ppetrov^>
doing stuff the hard way on CRUX is significantly easier than doing stuff the hard way on other distros
<ppetrov^>
that's all
<ppetrov^>
for cd stuff, i use xcdroast with cdrtools
<r0ni>
i think xfburn is the last major piece of xfce I havent done yet... i haven't a cdrom drive myself in a decade or more
<ppetrov^>
about using xfce and all -- i recently made myself some trinity kde ports, but many things do not work as I would expect... screensavers are not found, installed mouse cursors are not found
<ppetrov^>
and importantly, qtcurve engine, a really great thing works just halfway
<r0ni>
rebuilt caches?
<ppetrov^>
nope, good point
<r0ni>
trinity is that kde4 fork right>
<ppetrov^>
no, kde 3.5
<ppetrov^>
uses their own forket qt3 lib
<r0ni>
oh wow, that might actually be cool
<ppetrov^>
it is
<r0ni>
kde3 was last godd kde
<ppetrov^>
and i did get a fully working environment
<ppetrov^>
i will come back to it at some point, because with Xfce 4.12 that I still use, thing gradually break when the dependencies get updated
<ppetrov^>
they even have the good old Amarok 1.4, which still is the perfect player, imho
<r0ni>
i used to use the cli one mpg321 maybe
<ppetrov^>
well, i am not that 1337 :)
<r0ni>
lol my system was just that bad
<r0ni>
if i didn't play mp3 in a console it was skip and crack, it was that slow lol
<r0ni>
i used itunes for many years after i moved away from that depressing hardware ;)
<ppetrov^>
mac user?
<r0ni>
might be why i have such fun with bad systems these days
<r0ni>
yes, normally
<ppetrov^>
never used a mac
<ppetrov^>
fonts look nice there, though
<ppetrov^>
also, i liked the aqua yheme and icons
<r0ni>
Mac used to be really nice when I could build and run x11 apps on it
<ppetrov^>
:)
<r0ni>
can't do that these days
<ppetrov^>
run xfce on mac os x...
<ppetrov^>
why not?
<r0ni>
some things can be done, sure
<r0ni>
but apple used to ship a X11 app built right in
<r0ni>
all the mac=unix used to really be true... these days, sure things like gimp and other software run but not how it used to be
<r0ni>
apple has slowly made it so you have to jump thru hoops to run anything not on thier app store
<ppetrov^>
ye.. no thanks
<r0ni>
I just disable ALL system security and go rouge
<r0ni>
all I really use is firefox and terminals anyway, I dont use anything mac specific, I just like the hardware
<ppetrov^>
if i ever use mac it would be because of ms office
<r0ni>
Apple has free office apps I find more visually appealing, plus all the usual libre stuff is there as well
<ppetrov^>
sure, but once you ned compatibility with your colleagues, then you use what they use
<ppetrov^>
i have found that WPS Office is the closest <ms <office clone
<r0ni>
ya work has a tendency to use the MS stuff, can't he belped really
<ppetrov^>
in my previous work place, i had a colleague who decided to write his dissertation in LaTeX
<r0ni>
mosst of my pc use at work is on linux systems, we use firefox on JWM at amazon
<ppetrov^>
i told him to use what his supervisor uses and that he'll have a hard time convincing her to use LaTeX
<r0ni>
lol, I can't say I know anyone who actually uses latex. I consider that beyond l337 skillz
<ppetrov^>
I have LyX installed, mainly because in the past, i had these ideas to be cool and write stuff using latex... so i have a few documents left
<r0ni>
if all possible I'll put everything in plain text docs for me. I never wanted to put info in a format that could cause me pain later on
<r0ni>
i'll forget just about any app's usage so i always keep a plain copy for me lol
<r0ni>
ok so a cd transcriber i guess is likely libsndfile but i wonder if i'll need to make my own gst-plugins-bad to include it
<r0ni>
almost everything is disalbed by default
<r0ni>
i dont see it list in disabled things so hopefully it picks it up
<r0ni>
hrm oh wait, it should be installed already
<r0ni>
hrm... there's more to this than meets the eye
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<jaeger>
ppetrov^: typically I see that (could of) from Australian and British speakers but only rarely American
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<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: Could of is bad grammar, but I have heard a lot of young people speak like this
<SiFuh>
jaeger: Hmmm it is possible. I have an automatic habit of constantly correcting people when listening to others speak incorrectly. One of my most hated forms of bad English is the use of the word "ones". Them ones, those ones, these ones and so on... Why don't you just say Then, those and these?
<farkuhar>
jaeger: any chance your patch for /etc/rc.d/gitd will make it into the git port? Or will each deployment have to come up with its own workaround (for start-stop-daemon preserving too much of root's environment)?
<jaeger>
It could go into the port if needed, sure