jaeger changed the topic of #crux to: CRUX 3.7 | Homepage: https://crux.nu/ | Ports: https://crux.nu/portdb/ https://crux.ninja/portdb/ | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/crux/
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<mnkydeth> Just figured out my audio issue. My typing sucks it seems. I mispelled my username for the audio group in the /etc/group file. A day wasted cause of a typo. uhg lol
<SiFuh> Haha
<mnkydeth> Teaching myself wireplumber now. Well, reading up on it. Next stop... bluetooth and getting a gaming controller connected.
<SiFuh> Bluetooth is horrible. :-P I use a dedicated bluetooth adapter for audio with its own bluetooth stack so I don't need to mess around with it.
<SiFuh> Creative BT-W3
<ppetrov^> why is BT hprrible?
<ppetrov^> *horrible
<SiFuh> The list is massive ;-) you can just google search 'Bluetooth is horrible' and I bet you will get millions of results
<ppetrov^> sound like and interesting read
<SiFuh> OpenBSD dumped bluetooth altogether
<ppetrov^> heh
<ppetrov^> well, i have BT headphones, so I need it
<ppetrov^> I use blueman and compile pulseaudio against bluez and sbc. Seems to work
<SiFuh> My speakers require bluetooth hence buying the Creative BT-W3, so I don't need to worry about anything.
<SiFuh> I like that I can just take the speakers and the BT-W3 adapter and plug it in any PC and I get audio without having to configure anything
<ppetrov^> hehe, we are not "audiophiles", I guess. real audio guys will tell you sound over BT is an abomination and that you need vacuum tube amplifier and besst listen to sound from vinyl
<SiFuh> I agree. Vacuum Condensers and Vinyl are the best
<mnkydeth> Well, I had bought myself one of those new 8bitdo Ultimate controllers. Seems it's 2.4Ghz not bluetooth. So, it seems I may not need bluetooth after all.
<mnkydeth> As of right now. I'm not sure of the actual benefits and such from wireplumber to pipewire-media-session
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: https://jcs.org/2020/11/18/openbsd_btaudio Someone wrote a page about it
<ppetrov^> SiFuh, that usb dongle seems like a nice idea
<SiFuh> Yeah I like it. I have it synced to a JBL Go3
<SiFuh> I tested it on OpenBSD, CRUX and Windows 10(?) and it appears as an audio device so I do need to mess around with any bluetooth settings or worry about bluetooth drivers.
<SiFuh> I do NOT* need
<ppetrov^> SiFuh, I used your 'scaled up' CRUX penguin mascot to make myself some simple wallpapers. I guess it's OK :)
<SiFuh> I wish we could find the original
<ppetrov^> it's close enough
<ppetrov^> do you know who designed the original?
<SiFuh> Nope. Jaeger might know. For a strange reason when you asked it the name skuupi popped into my head, but I don't think he designed it.
<ppetrov^> skuupi? Sounds Finnish
<SiFuh> Not sure. I could find out.
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<SiFuh> Yeah, finland
<ppetrov^> :)
<SiFuh> Pulled that out of the 2002 logs
<ppetrov^> jeez man
<ppetrov^> you know IRC was created in Finland?
<ppetrov^> in University of Oulu, to be precise
<SiFuh> Internet Rele Chat :-P
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: there is a conversation between danm, valen and morlenxus about the logo. The URL is an ftp that doesn't exist anymore ftp://plog.homeip.net/incoming/crux/
<ppetrov^> still in 2002?
<SiFuh> 2001
<ppetrov^> so right when crux was created
<SiFuh> Yeah, I think wikipedia says 2002 but it wasn't 2002 it was in 2001
<SiFuh> I think they are using version1 as the official release. But there were releases before it. 0.94 and so on
<ppetrov^> I checked distrowatch
<ppetrov^> it's curious, there was an amd64 release in 2005
<SiFuh> AMD Opteron, the first CPU to introduce the x86-64 extensions in April 2003
<SiFuh> Heh in the 2003 logs I compiled CRUX on a 64 bit CPU but it was on a Sparc
<ppetrov^> yep, i remember when it came out, the amd64
<SiFuh> I end up wasting a day when I start snooping logs. Haha I bet stop
<ppetrov^> where do you get these?
<SiFuh> On my external hard drive. My irssi saves all the logs when I am online
<ppetrov^> all back to 2001?!
<ppetrov^> geez, man
<SiFuh> Pretty much and I have logs before then too
<SiFuh> I logged everything for decades from many different chat programs
<SiFuh> Even my emails
<ppetrov^> amazing
<SiFuh> Comes in handy sometimes. Like when I was telling my friends Google contacted me asking me to work for them. Of course they didn't believe me until I showed them the actual email. I turned them down because I was working in Shanghai in those days.
<ppetrov^> do you regret turning them down?
<SiFuh> Nope
<SiFuh> I did say I'd be interested in their Chinese office but they said that wouldn't be possible
<ppetrov^> where were you supposed to move?
<SiFuh> United States
<SiFuh> jaeger: ordered 100 stainless steel M4x8 screws got 95 instead... Malaysia....!
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<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.7]: [notify] samba: update to 4.17.4
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: remind: update to 04.02.01
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: pmwiki: update to 2.3.16
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<cruxbot> [xorg.git/3.7]: mesa: update to 22.3.1
<cruxbot> [xorg.git/3.7]: xorg-libx11: update to 1.8.3
<jaeger> SiFuh: bummer :/
<SiFuh> jaeger: Yep. Always when ordering stuff here. Good thing we are in control of releasing the payment
<SiFuh> I actually only need 88 but I ordered 100 because SS screws are always handy
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<GazL> Evening all.
<GazL> Just stumbled across a fails to build for gdb. Seems it needs a patch since readline 8.2
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<jaeger> thanks for the report
<GazL> No worries. Have a good christmas guys,
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