#commonlisp on 2024-09-13 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2022-07-28 16:55 jackdaniel changed the topic of #commonlisp to: Common Lisp, the #1=(programmable . #1#) programming language | Wiki: <https://www.cliki.net> | IRC Logs: <https://irclog.tymoon.eu/libera/%23commonlisp> | Cookbook: <https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook> | Pastebin: <https://plaster.tymoon.eu/>

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01:47 <screwlisp> o/

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07:32 <younder> Beach: Do you have a paper on the OO design methodology for SICL?

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08:28 <beach> I don't know that we have a particular design methodology. Other then the CLIENT parameter perhaps. But that's not documented.

08:29 <beach> *than

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08:37 <jackdaniel> another noteworthy (and praiseworthy) technique is avoiding the use of slots and pervasively using accessors/ protocol functions

08:38 <beach> Fair enough.

08:38 <beach> Got that from CLIM though. :)

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09:07 <Shinmera> My article is now live: https://reader.tymoon.eu/article/437

09:07 <Shinmera> I'll be posting it to hackernews later today, would appreciate it if people went and upvoted it then (I'll let y'all know when)

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09:27 <pranav> Thanks for sharing.

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09:50 <ingeniot> Shinmera: Amazing!

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11:00 <phoe> Shinmera: "amazing" is the right word, yes

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11:06 <Shinmera> amazing-ly expensive :)

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11:13 <ingeniot> Shinmera: I would love to support you financially but I quit my job two weeks ago because it made me sick literally.

11:13 <Shinmera> condolences

11:13 <ingeniot> Thanks!

11:13 <jackdaniel> congratulations

11:13 <Shinmera> incidentally that's also why I'm not working a "normal job"

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11:14 <ingeniot> Condolences!

11:15 <jackdaniel> Shinmera: that's cool that you've decided to keep classified parts as C shims and keep Lisp stuff upstream

11:15 <Shinmera> heh

11:16 <Shinmera> jackdaniel: Yeah, mostly I didn't want to deal with the maintenance burden of having a bunch of forks

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12:48 <mwnaylor> When I create a slynk server and connect to it with sly, it /appears/ that the session immediately drops into a debugger and never leaves. Is that really the case? I don't get a sly-db window with option to abort to the top level. I don't get the same behavior when I create a new sbcl session with `sly'. sbcl/slynk -> https://pastebin.com/AeAByL0H emacs/sly -> https://pastebin.com/J8qAVxDY

12:48 <ixelp> slynk output - Pastebin.com

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13:14 <Shinmera> Alright, just made the hackernews post. Please look for a post titled "Porting SBCL to the Nintendo Switch" and upvote it.

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13:16 <bjorkintosh> congratulations, Shinmera. was it fun?

13:16 <Shinmera> no?

13:16 <bjorkintosh> too bad. good job all the same.

13:17 <Shinmera> Well, it's not done, is the point

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15:56 <Demosthenex> pretty cool

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18:17 <younder> Can you turn off slime/sly in the REPL when a program is running? It keeps interfering.

18:20 <younder> [11] eliza> hello <ret> becomes sb-ext:heap-allocated-p and it adds a extra <newline> so the prompt doesn't line up.

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18:25 <kagevf_> younder: would explicity using a stream like *query-io* help?

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18:27 <younder> *query-io* works from the REPL in EMACS, but does nothing from the command line. Anyhow I had the same problems there

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18:34 <younder> found in the Sly manual http://joaotavora.github.io/sly/#REPLs-and-game-loops

18:34 <ixelp> SLY User Manual, version 1.0.42

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