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<screwlisp> Thanks everyone for contributing and mooing <3
<screwlisp> There's probably an archive at https://archives.anonradio.net/#screwtape
<ixelp> ANONRADIO
<screwlisp> It's read a non radio (viz knon radio in Texas)
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<younder> I found the problem with the added return. It is not CL but the editor (corfu) that adds the CR. No wonder I couldn't find anything wrong.
<younder> Also: nice<CR> comes out *print-circle* :)
<younder> I guess I'll sidestep the problem by writing a McClim wrapper.
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<dnhester26> Hi, can someone help me? I have a project that i've been developing on slime/sly for a while. Now I'm trying to run it as a script from the terminal and I get an error debugger invoked on a QUICKLISP-CLIENT:SYSTEM-NOT-FOUND in thread
<dnhester26> I have added a parent directory to ql:*local-project-directories*, not sure why it wouldn't work now
<dnhester26> What should I do?
<dlowe> dnhester26: what value did you push?
<dlowe> did it end in a /
<dnhester26> (truename "/home/myproject")
<dnhester26> no, no ending /
<dnhester26> dlowe thanks for replying. What do you think?
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<dnhester26> ohhh
<dnhester26> sorry, just realoized what the problem was!
<dnhester26> the subdirectories are themselves git repos, and they were not all cloned
<dnhester26> had to do --recurse-submodules in the git clone
<dnhester26> sorry to bother, somehow was dealing with this for a few hours, and after asking the question the issue just occurred to me
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<dlowe> it's a very common thing to happen. Have you heard of rubber-ducking?
<NotThatRPG> Wonder if anyone could help me with MUFFLE-CONDITIONS in SBCL. I'm trying to muffle style warnings, but they are getting through anyway. See https://pastebin.com/pTSewW9D
<ixelp> Problem with SB-EXT:MUFFLE-CONDITIONS - Pastebin.com
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<NotThatRPG> Possibly I'm not understanding something about compile time and load time...
<NotThatRPG> Actually, seems like wrapping in (let (#+sbcl (sb-ext:*muffled-warnings* 'style-warning)) ...) works. Not at all sure why.
<mrcom> NotThatRPG: Missing a colon in front of SBCL
<NotThatRPG> mrcom: #+sbcl is fine
<mrcom> (Right?)
<mrcom> Wrong :)
<NotThatRPG> Not sure why the locally form does not work and the let-binding does work
<dnhester26> dlowe: haha I hadn't just read the wikipedia page
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<Bicyclidine> defconstant may be signaling a warning at runtime
<bike> defconstant may be signaling a style warning at runtime
<Bicyclidine> wow awesome
<Bicyclidine> anyway, and the declaration only does anything within the compiler
<Bicyclidine> yeah, if i put `(defconstant *test* 4)` in a file and compile it, with the declaration i get no warning _during compile-file_, but then it warns when i load it
<dnhester26> ok, just loaded a project on an ubuntu box and I'm getting this random error: COMPILE-FILE-ERROR while compiling #<CL-SOURCE-FILE "dissect" "backend" "sbcl">
<dnhester26> It seems that this is a dependency
<dnhester26> any ideas on what to do?
<dnhester26> the project runs fine in my mac on my laptop
<Bicyclidine> https://github.com/Shinmera/dissect/issues/18 probably this issue. try updating everything (more updated than quicklisp, unfortunately)
<ixelp> compile error on SBCL · Issue #18 · Shinmera/dissect · GitHub
<NotThatRPG> Bicyclidine, bike: That's very helpful, thlanks.
<Bicyclidine> sure thing
<Bicyclidine> they're both me by the way, bike's computer is just embedded in a tank of molasses right now
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<dnhester26> Bicyclidine thanks so much, why did your google find that and not mine?
<Bicyclidine> i didn't google it. i've just seen other people with the same issue. the dissect issue tracker alone has it like six times https://github.com/Shinmera/dissect/issues/23#issuecomment-2161128167
<ixelp> Compilation error under ros/sbcl-bin/2.4.3 and up; DEBUG-VAR-INFO · Issue #23 · Shinmera/dissect · GitHub
<Shinmera> maybe I need to start adding a notice to my projects to use the shirakumo dist
* Shinmera sighs
<Bicyclidine> you could mention this on the readme, i guess, but who reads?
<mrcom> This sounds like a job for -- FAQ BOT!
<Shinmera> Bicyclidine: i'd also have to remember to update the readme again when it becomes out of date, which I definitely won't
<Bicyclidine> yeah...
<palter> A while back, I mentioned I had built a Forth 2012 implementation in Common Lisp for a client and would announce it if I was given permission. Today, I was allowed to make it public. MIT license, CCL and SBCL, https://github.com/gmpalter/cl-forth
<ixelp> GitHub - gmpalter/cl-forth: Common Lisp implementation of the Forth 2012 Standard
<Shinmera> nice
<palter> Includes an FFI as well.
<mrcom> That is very cool. What is the use case? Integration with existing code? Dev environment?
<mrcom> Ooh... it's a compiler? With interpreter for dev?
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<palter> Client has an application that relies on an old Forth compiler/interpreter. They needed it replaced before it started to fail as there's no one to maintain it.
<mrcom> The integration of Lisp & Forth is very nice.
<palter> My implementation compiles Forth into Lisp which is then compiled by the Lisp's compiler.
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<palter> There's some info in the README.md. I need to finish the FFI.md writeup
<mrcom> Yeah, I'm looking at it right now.
<mrcom> I don
<mrcom> I don't imagine they're too awfully concerned about object size :)
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<mrcom> But even 100's MB is small today.
<palter> Not really. Their applications are huge, written in Common Lisp. They talk to Forth over a socket and use it as a poor man's FFI.
* mrcom remembers the days of the 4MB Linux install.
* palter Remembers the IBM 1130 with 8K bytes of core.
<mrcom> I imagine anybody who's been debugging that kind of interaction is now your BFF.
<mrcom> ("I can _inspect_ it!")
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<mrcom> I'll bet some managers are loving you, too.
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<mrcom> I am curious about what kind of huge Lisp project also has For... Ah. CERN.
<mrcom> Or similar.
<palter> Nope and I'm not allowed to say.
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<Pixel_Outlaw> So do you also inherit Common Lisp's exception handling? Very cool project.
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<dlowe> palter: ##forth also wants to chat to you :)
<dlowe> s/to/with/
<mrcom> Hopefully they let you talk about it some day, or brag about it themselves.
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<yacin> whoa cool palter !
<yacin> i was thinking to write a toy forth in lisp for advent of code, but maybe i'll just use this :)
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<varjag> palter: very cool
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