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<beach> Good morning everyone!
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<engblom> What would you recommend as a simple ACID storage? Berkeley DB could have been a good option, but on cl-berkeley-db site it is saying that it has not implemented everything and that documention is poor. Also, the last changes to the source was done in 2014, and no update since then.
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<pjb> there are a lot of choices.
<pve> does sqlite qualify?
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<rotateq> and then clsql?
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<CodeBitCookie[m]> Anyone prefer Loop over Iterate?
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<lieven> I do
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<rotateq> i didn't do really something with iterate yet, but i like what loop offers
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<etimmons> I seem to recall someone writing a connection pool wrapper around Drakma, but I can't find it right now. Anyone know where it is/if it actually exists?
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<jackdaniel> there is a system that pools threads for hunchentoot, but this is clearly different
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<etimmons> Maybe that's what I'm thinking of
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<Guest74> Are there any issues with osicat? I see some of my filesystem stuff uses it and I remember something about some library needing some hard to find c lib.
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<jackdaniel> I suspect that some ffi calls may be posix-specific (and not work on other platforms)
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<jackdaniel> the library that depends on a c library is iolib (and depends on libfixposix that paves over disrapences between different posix platforms)
<Guest74> ah, that's the one. I'm good on that front then.
<Guest74> I remember having a hard time with that library, but didn't remember the details. Things are still fuzzy.
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<lagash> Guest74: it appears to not work well with FreeBSD, or maybe it's the software I'm using with it, idk
<Guest74> hrm, that's something to look into, I am concerned with the free OSs. Are there any other replacements that work well there? I am looking for something with good ioctl stuff, haven't actually tested osicat with that yet.
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<Guest74> though I'm using that for framebuffer stuff and not sure that's a concern for freebsd.
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<etimmons> Guest74: osicat also depends on a c library, but it's not distributed separately, it's written and built using CFFI features
<etimmons> So you might have issues if you try to distribute a binary, but there are ways around that if you run into it
<Guest74> ah, is there any that just leverages implementation internals?
<etimmons> sb-posix?
<etimmons> But that doesn't work on Windows, I think
<Guest74> I'm definitely not concerned about windows. Let somebody else worry about that crap spyware if anybody ever uses my stuff besides me.
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<Guest74> cross implementation would be nice though. Seeing as how quicklisp doesn't accept anything that doesn't work on more than one.
<Guest74> hm double negatives bad.
<Guest74> anyways, have to go get tested to see if I've got covid again. I'll read the logs though.
<etimmons> Osicat works well for my purposes (mostly low level file APIs at the moment). Haven't tested extensively on freebsd yet, but if there's a bug IME it'll be simple to fix and get merged
<contrapunctus> Anyone prefer `for` over `loop` or `iterate` ? 😏️
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<beach> No. :)
<jackdaniel> I'm sure that at least the author does
<jackdaniel> well, 99% sure
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<Nilby> I think an unfortunately large amount of lisp code is not used by it's authors.
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<Guest74> I wonder how one would go about constructing a list of unused code and somehow scrubbing it. It's sometimes hard to tell if something has been abandoned because it's no good.
<Guest74> for example, does anybody use cl-dbus? I've been thinking of using it but i have a hard time understanding it.
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<etimmons> I've got the beginnings of a connection pool for Drakma. Maybe I'll extract it, actually write tests, and call it forceling.
* jackdaniel chuckles
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<johnjay> Nilby: maybe it's the curse of lisp
<jackdaniel> a severly overrated term :)
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<edgar-rft> I was cursed by lisp ... until I learned howto recurse
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<Nilby> I guess I'm okay with being cursed with too much power and flexibility
<Nilby> and nobody runs my software in C/C++ anymore either
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<hayley> johnjay: well spooked my prototypes
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<peterhil> edgar-rft: :-D
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<kuao> ^^
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<hayley> I don't get it.
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