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<TimMc>
ocdtrekkie: ugh why
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<TimMc>
I've given enough money to Mozilla to get on their "special donors" list or whatever, so I sent an email to that contact expressing my deep concern about this.
<TimMc>
I feel like they completely lose the plot about once every year or two.
<ocdtrekkie>
I suspect the existential dread that Google decides it doesn't need to fund the development of a competing browser creeps up on them from time to time.
<ocdtrekkie>
But yeah, it feels like they keep going with strategies that alienate their core supporters.
<TimMc>
I feel like it's not long before some group takes the Chromium rendering engine, drops it into a fork of the Firefox UI, and completely eats the remaining userbase of Firefox.
<ocdtrekkie>
And in one swoop removed the main reason I choose Firefox. :P
<ocdtrekkie>
If I wanted to be on a Chrome fork, I have a LOT of options.
<LyreCalliope[m]>
<TimMc> "I feel like it's not long before..." <- If only Mozilla had made it easier for the reverse to happen.....
<LyreCalliope[m]>
When they gave up on the FirefoxVR browser and Igalia took it up one of the first things Igalia did was to abstract the front end enough to move chrome into place as an option. I hate that they felt they had to do that even if it was mainly for testing purposes.
<LyreCalliope[m]>
Btw thanks to everyone who joined my livestream! It was fun!
<ocdtrekkie>
I missed last week but I think you really got the atmosphere right this week.
<ocdtrekkie>
On nights where the rest of the family is home it is hard for me to join anything live but tonight where it was just me and the toddler, it was kinda just a fun hangout thing, and worked really well.
<ocdtrekkie>
I tried to bait you with a share link into playing 2048 live, but Go ended up being fun too.
<LyreCalliope[m]>
Lol, I had the link opened in the background and didn't even notice until just now.
<LyreCalliope[m]>
I really appreciate how demoing Sandstorm to that one person who popped in led to a mini gaming stream. 😂 That felt like magic.
<ocdtrekkie>
I think more multiplayer games on Sandstorm could add to that someday, people jumping on to watch could jump in and play. :)
<humanetech>
<ocdtrekkie> "And in one swoop removed the..." <- I've never kept a list, but it strikes me how many people are dedicating to writing complete browser engines from scratch.. but in so many go-it-alone efforts, that likely the vast majority of these projects will strand. If only they'd unite, right?
<ocdtrekkie>
Getting developers to agree to build one thing and not each their own thing is one of the hard problems in computing. :P
<isd>
How many are we talking?
<isd>
Like, I've come across few who think it's feasible
<isd>
But, I think, servo is probably the best hope there
<humanetech>
Pff, even that I didn't count, but more than 10 projects at least.
<humanetech>
For some of those after I found them, I pinged [Adrian Cochrane](https://floss.social/@alcinnz), as they are working on such a from-scratch project (multiple even).
<humanetech>
Maybe someone wants to start a `delightful-open-browser-projects` curated list :)
<humanetech>
Just found StackBlitz.com (again, I think.. as I passed it before to forge federation room), via WebContainers.. looks they embraced Wasm to run their software & services.
<humanetech>
Ah, I found it. I should actually credit Ryuno-Ki (André Jaenisch) for [finding stackblitz](https://matrix.to/#/!SakSkZqjzMsaPCVqlv:matrix.batsense.net/$E2DsEVnBWOWoCTUR6bRxWcd1IiAdYUsllqisXFT_3SI?via=matrix.org&via=tchncs.de&via=t2bot.io).
<Ryuno-KiAndrJaen>
Now I need to read up my backlog here. Thanks :D
<Ryuno-KiAndrJaen>
<ocdtrekkie> "The issue would be all the..." <- Take note?
<Ryuno-KiAndrJaen>
Sounds like it should be a config fir future development/refactorings
<Ryuno-KiAndrJaen>
<isd> "Also, if anyone is itching to..." <- Hm, hosting?
<Ryuno-KiAndrJaen>
Something I am looking for since a few months.
<Ryuno-KiAndrJaen>
(I would need Node.js, Python, Go… at runtimes. MariaDB and Redis as databases and SSH or similar into it)
<Ryuno-KiAndrJaen>
<LyreCalliope[m]> "If only Mozilla had made it..." <- > <@captaincalliope:spacecadets.chat> If only Mozilla had made it easier for the reverse to happen.....
<Ryuno-KiAndrJaen>
SpiderNode (to replace V8 as engine behind Node.js) is dead, too
<Ryuno-KiAndrJaen>
> When they gave up on the FirefoxVR browser and Igalia took it up one of the first things Igalia did was to abstract the front end enough to move chrome into place as an option. I hate that they felt they had to do that even if it was mainly for testing purposes.
<Ryuno-KiAndrJaen>
<ocdtrekkie> "I think more multiplayer games..." <- I have several those R&Ds that use socket.io (for example)