07:47 <__toor__> does waybar require d-bus? I had no idea.. too bad. So, what can you recommend to use instead of waybar?

07:48 <LarstiQ> what are your requirements? I use yambar

07:51 <__toor__> yambar, let me look into that. I'd prefer to have something that doesnt require a lot of customization to get decent looking

07:55 <__toor__> 1) won't start without a config. 2) why not provide a default yambar.conf? makes no sense.

08:55 <leon-p> yambar runs on a lot of different desktops which require different modules, so a default config wouldn't work on a lot of them

08:56 <leon-p> but if you only care about active tags, there is also my river-tag-overlay, which will run with no configuration

08:57 <ifreund> there are other bars listed on the river wiki as well

09:19 <__toor__> sorry, I just have customization and configuration fatigue packaging up all of these things needed to start an OS that is almost usable :D

09:19 <__toor__> If I knew how much work it would be I never would have started this work lol

09:37 <leon-p> then welcome to the bar-less life I suppose :)

09:42 <LarstiQ> the joy of linux from scratch :)

09:51 <ninewise> nobar best bar

09:59 <__toor__> mm, you might be right ;-)

10:00 <__toor__> but I kind of got used to seeing the time there, and how much free memory I have is kinda useful too

10:10 <ninewise> The time is displayed in my IRC client so that's always visible

12:54 <lordmzte> Is it possible to make river blur the backgrounds of semi-transparent windows/is this planned?

12:57 <ifreund> lordmzte: I'm not opposed to supporting that in some way in theory, but it's not going to happen anytime in the near future

12:57 <lordmzte> 👍

14:43 <The_Buhs> __toor__ so I actually just made something that you can use to just see the time https://codeberg.org/bwbuhse/beanclock and leon-p made https://git.sr.ht/~leon_plickat/wlclock which is an analog clock

19:32 <WilhelmVonWeiner> Is there a way to make focus follow a window's change to another output?

21:38 <leon-p> lordmzte: ifreund: there is a MR for wayland-protocols for a blur protocol. I assume if that makes it through, blur could be handled entirely inside wlroots without us knowing anything about it