13:12 <dnkl> ifreund: that crash I mentioned last week was of course my own dumb fault. No issues in wlroots or river (related to this at least :D )

13:13 <ifreund> dnkl: no worries at all, glad you got it figured out :)

13:36 <leon-p> ifreund: has your oppinion on `if (var) |_|` vs. `if (var == null)` changed? I looked through the WM code and saw some of those and I remembered we talked about that in the past at some time

13:36 <ifreund> I prefer `if (foo == null)` personally

13:38 <leon-p> yeah, I remember you convincing me to prefer that as well :)

14:47 <gbrlsnchs> Uhhh is it a known issue that sometimes key mappings stop working? I saw it happen once while using Gamescope, and although I think it was not due to keyboard grab, I ignored it, but then it just happened again out of nowhere while I was using my web browser. I thought I would start an investigation by asking here if anyone has seen this issue. I could not capture logs, unfortunately. 🙁

15:05 <ifreund> gbrlsnchs: could it be that you are unintentionally entering a mode where there are no mappings defined?

15:07 <gbrlsnchs> ifreund: I don't think so. The only other mode I have configured is a "toggled" mode I use to select a different layer of tags. Nothing configured for that mode worked as well, although the keyboard was working perfectly.c

15:08 <ifreund> gbrlsnchs: and just to be clear, when this happens keyboard input still makes it to whatever window is focused?

15:08 <ifreund> and pointer input and the like still works?

15:09 <gbrlsnchs> ifreund: it does, yes! what I meant about the keyboard working perfectly was exactly that, I only had my browser selected to the tag, and I could type normally and interact with it. Pointer also worked, yes.

15:10 <gbrlsnchs> I could not open a terminal to debug it further though, and I unfortunately wasn't logging river anywhere

15:11 <gbrlsnchs> I'm on 0.3.2 btw, I think Gentoo hasn't updated Zig to 0.13 yet, which I think the next versions rely on

15:12 <ifreund> hmm, well it's not a known issue. I would double check that you don't have Super+F11 bound to enter "passthrough" mode like the example init does though

15:13 <ifreund> I don't think anything related to this has changed since 0.3.2

15:14 <gbrlsnchs> yea since no one had this issue previously, the problem might be between the chair and the computer lol

15:14 <The_Buhs> gbrlsnchs there's a PR for Zig 0.13 to ::gentoo, it's just taking it's time (for reasons I'm not totally sure of but *shrug*)

15:14 <The_Buhs> https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/37257 https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/37283 if you wanna follow them

15:14 <ifreund> it's always possible that there's a tricky bug lurking in river waiting for some unfortunate person to discover it :D

15:15 <ifreund> just because I never seem to hit bugs myself any more doesn't mean that they don't exist :D

15:16 <gbrlsnchs> ifreund: haha, hopefully it's not! it _might_ have been the resize mode I just found out I have configured 😅 but in any case, I'll keep an eye on it

15:17 <gbrlsnchs> I need to clean up my river config, split things into other scripts in an init.d directory or something

15:18 <gbrlsnchs> after moving to kakoune I got a little lazy with my dotfiles, since kakoune config is so much simpler than, say, neovim lol

15:18 <ifreund> kakoune is great :)

15:30 <gbrlsnchs> The_Buhs: thanks for letting me know! exciting PRs, specially the one adding an official eclass 😀

16:26 <fleurc> Hello, I'm new to River, sorry if this question was asked before but I've looked over on google, the issue tracker, gentoo and arch and couldn't quite understand how to have a window spawn in a tag, in hyprland I'd do windowrulev2, describe the id of the program and set the workspace it would spawn in; In river I've seen that I can do rule-add -app-id "glob" -title "glob" tags, but it doesn't seem to actually do anything. I want emacs

16:26 <fleurc> to appear on what would be "workspace" 3 but I can't get it to work.

16:34 <leon-p> fleurc: can you show us the command you have tried?

16:46 <fleurc> riverctl rule-add -app-id 'emacs' -title 'emacs' tags "4"

16:47 <fleurc> riverctl rule-add -title 'emacs*' tags "3"

16:47 <fleurc> I tried these 2, and also switching title with -app-id

16:47 <fleurc> I think i'm using the wrong tag here

16:48 <fleurc> Still don't fully understand how to pinpoint a tag

16:48 <leon-p> yes, the tag is wrong

16:48 <leon-p> to address the third or fourth tag, 3 or four are not correct

16:49 <leon-p> tags are bitfields, you have to use the integer whichs binary representation equals the bitfield

16:49 <fleurc> How do I do this?

16:50 <leon-p> by knowing binary numbers: 0001 -> 1, 0010 -> 2, 0100 -> 4, etc.

16:50 <leon-p> or by taking a closer look at the default init, especially the tag keybind part :)

16:52 <fleurc> So I should do something like "riverctl rule-add -app-id 'emacs' -title 'emacs' tags 0011?

16:53 <leon-p> that would be tag three, yes

16:53 <fleurc> Got it, thanks, will try now

16:53 <fleurc> Will report if it works or not

16:57 <fleurc> It didn't work, it doesn't spawn in the specific tag, instead it just works as if there was no rule (spawns in current tag instead of tag 3)

16:58 <leon-p> the title of emacs' window isn't "emacs"

16:58 <leon-p> it's usually something like "emacs @ <your hostname>"

16:58 <leon-p> try app-id instead

16:58 <fleurc> Ok

16:59 <leon-p> anyway, I have to go now

16:59 <fleurc> Ok

16:59 <fleurc> Thanks for the help

17:03 <fleurc> Yeah, I didn't get it to work, until I get how to make this work I'll just do things manually

17:12 <fleurc> Got Kitty to open on Tag 5, So now all I need is to discover how Emacs is titled

17:12 <fleurc> Thanks

17:43 <tiosgz> i think there's been some miscommunication about tags? 'tags 3' == 0b0011 == 1st & second "workspace" (unless rules expect the number in a different format in which case i must have forgotten)

17:44 <tiosgz> fleurc: there's lswt to help you find programs' app ids and titles

17:44 <Youpilai> @fleurc: you can do 'echo $((1 << 4))'  to get the integer which target tag 5 for example

17:59 <gbrlsnchs> tag 4 should equal to 1000, in decimal notation would be 8

18:03 <Youpilai> yes, the result of the above is 16, for tag 5

18:03 <Youpilai> and if you use 15, you get all previous tags but 5 (ie 1 to 4)

19:27 <The_Buhs> Y'all talking about kakoune have me learning a new editor and hating the learning aspect but also it seems cool

19:39 <fleurc> Hi, I've come back with a different problem. I cannot make Polkit work.

19:39 <fleurc> That's the short of it, I have riverctl spawn /Path/to/Polkit

19:40 <fleurc> And tried running it on terminal, but my gpg polkit password thingy doesn't appear and it just immediately crashes

22:07 <ifreund> I know nothing about polkit unfortunately, its always worked out of the box with no intervention from my part on the distros I've used

23:57 <leon-p> well, polkit and the gpg have different prompting programs: polkit-agent and pinentry

23:59 <leon-p> I am not sure right now how the polkit-agent is startet, but if it even remotely works like pinentry, then it'll get $WAYLAND_DISPLAY via a sidechannel, which here may be DBus

23:59 <leon-p> so setting up DBus is required

23:59 <leon-p> unless they mean the TTY polkit prompt. if that doesn't work, than I have no idea either