09:49 <ifreund> sewn: river 0.3 isn't going to disappear anytime soon, you're welcome to keep using it for as long as you like

09:49 <sewn> I'm not hanging on it for life I would just like to know ahead of time if its reasonable

09:50 <ifreund> as for when river 0.4 will be finished, I don't know. At a guess around a year from now

09:50 <ifreund> though it depends a lot on how much time I have for river

10:52 <leon-p> kinda hoping the wm protocol implementation lands a bit earlier, although holding back a release makes sense to me so we can experiment and iterate on the protocol for a while

10:55 <ifreund> leon-p: yeah, I think the wm protocol will land in master in like 2-4 months or so though probably won't be near release-ready at that point

10:56 <leon-p> oh neat, right in time to distract me from my bachelors thesis :D

10:56 <ifreund> I don't know yet what all I want to get done before landing the initial version in master though so it's hard to say

10:56 <ifreund> perfect :D

11:11 <LarstiQ> so part of the PR approval process is now checking if another section of the thesis has been written? ;)

11:19 <leon-p> writing the thing isn't reall the problem. It's finishing the program first and then convincing my supervisor that because it's a physics thesis I'd actually like to do some physics as well instead of just implementing some algorithm from some paper

11:20 <leon-p> I was also probably one of the few people who got hit by the socket server from the 0.11.0 zig std being weird, but I only found out that was the issue after reading the release notes

11:20 <leon-p> i.e. my program had issues getting and holding a connection from another server, but after upgrading to zig 0.12 it works perfectly

11:20 <leon-p> now I "just" have to debug some threading issues :')

11:21 <leon-p> and hope that the paper didn't lie and this really can be done in real-time

11:25 <LarstiQ> do simulations count as physics?

11:27 <leon-p> it's not a simulation

11:27 <leon-p> but yes, they do

11:27 <leon-p> we have entire departments that do nothing but write sumlations. and an entire mandatory course on it

11:28 <LarstiQ> aye, just wondering what kind of physics you'd like to do. I mostly know theoretical physicists, not experimenters

11:30 <leon-p> bu what I do: electron microscopes have cameras in them (timepix3 f.e.). a single electron activates multiple pixles. to use the data you need to cluster those pixel activations into hits. right now we have been doing that afterwards with a slow python script. a meassurement gets about 1 Giga-Hit / second, so we have lots of data (a few TB each month). The idea is to do the clustering step in real-time, to avoid down-time (the python script needs up to ten mi

11:30 <leon-p> nutes to cluster a single meassurement) and reduce storage costs

11:32 <leon-p> however my actual speciality is optics, sensorics and imaging

11:34 <leon-p> what I really want to work on eventually are the ultra-fast TEMs. they have a femto second laser to excite an electron emitter. they allow you such crazy things as taking videos of chemical reactions or even the switching of semiconductor logic gates f.e.

11:35 <LarstiQ> cool :)

11:38 <leon-p> https://www.mpinat.mpg.de/2556015/utem <-- if you want to know more

18:32 <agz> ifreund: found this awesome talk of yours, as i'm getting myself familiar with the wayland and zig stuff, you should probably be linking it somewhere in your site https://youtu.be/mwrA5IRGpfU (a gem for someone like me who also interested in similar stuff and starting uni this fall)

22:14 <leon-p> "4 years ago" ... I feel old now

22:30 <sonofevropa> dropping in for what's probably a quick question. has river been updated to work with zig 13?

22:38 <sonofevropa> I'm unintelligent, it's in the README. figured maybe that was the compilation issues (getting them from the aur and from manual)

22:38 <sonofevropa> i'll keep investigating, sorry for the unnecessary question

23:25 <Guest97> Hello, I am tryinging to build river from source, but it fails with "unable to find dynamic system library 'wlroots'" however, I have wlroots-devel installed

23:33 <leon-p> which version of wlroots do you have installed?

23:33 <Guest97> 0.17

23:34 <ifreund> does your distro patch the wlroots 0.17 pkg-config to add a version to the name?

23:35 <ifreund> if so you need to patch rivers build.zig to make it find your distros wlroots

23:36 <Guest97> Seems they do

23:36 <Guest97> Assuming I should change one of the wlroots instances in build.zig? If so which one?

23:52 <Guest97> I've tried changing each wlroots instance to wlroots-0.17 individually now, but it doesn't seem to work still