cfbolz changed the topic of #pypy to: #pypy PyPy, the flexible snake https://pypy.org | IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end and https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/pypy | the pypy angle is to shrug and copy the implementation of CPython as closely as possible, and staying out of design decisions
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<mgorny> cfbolz: your patch requires translating again, correct?
<cfbolz> mgorny: yeah, sorry :-(
<mgorny> no problem, just making sure i'm testing it correctly
<cfbolz> mgorny: yeah, it's definitely very corner-casy
<cfbolz> I mean who defines metaclasses with __eq__?
<LarstiQ> cfbolz: equality for everyone!
<mgorny> i mean, who invents NIH library to write tests using 'assert foo == HasAttributes(...)'...
<mgorny> but i'm being bitter ;-/
<mgorny> i suppose that happens when you constantly see python upstream boasting about having so many sponsors, while you end up doing a lot of extra work because of them and don't get a broken penny
<LarstiQ> because of the sponsors or because of upstream?
<mgorny> because of upstream
<mgorny> i don't mean this in negative way
<mgorny> it's more like upstream gets more money, creates more packages, i end up having to package more software
<mgorny> but sorry, i'm in particularly bad mood lately
<LarstiQ> mgorny: np, I understand
<mattip> something relevant from a email thread about finding sponsors for a feature:
<mattip> If you mix paid and volunteer folks on a single project, it is very important that the people who are paid understand that it is their responsibility to make the life/experience of the volunteers better rather than worse.
<mattip> (quote from Ralf Gommers)
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