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<geri`>
hey abu[7], how'd you think of transient symbols?
geri` is now known as geri
<abu[7]>
Transient symbols are nice ;)
<geri>
if you just made them symbols that always allocate a new symbol and have the value set to themselves that'd be functionally equivalent to strings in most lisps
<geri>
but you somehow came up with transient symbols themselves being interned in a special namespace and all that - what's the story behind that?
<geri>
butchered something but you probably got what i meant
<abu[7]>
Deduplication, localization, and local scope
<geri>
do you use them for localization often?
<abu[7]>
And *all* symbols are transient if they happen to be in a namespace not in the current search order
<abu[7]>
Externals are separate
<abu[7]>
Yes
<geri>
i wonder what you'd do if you need to interpolate a string with some values and that has to be localized
<abu[7]>
in all production apps
<abu[7]>
'text'
<geri>
oh
<abu[7]>
See the GUI sources
<geri>
you just put @1 in a different place :D
<geri>
makes sense
<abu[7]>
Eg @loc/de
<geri>
that's neat
<beneroth>
by concerns with internationalization is more, that the same string in a different context must be translated differently
<beneroth>
global replacement works often quite far, but it has limits I think
<abu[7]>
Right, but if you keep this in mind, you can avoid it
<abu[7]>
In the source can be ,"xyz12" and you tranlate it to whatever in the target languages"