04:27 <abu[7]> Yeah, iirc pilPretty and pilIndent are no longer included

04:27 <abu[7]> What pilIndent did is just "," (cmmma) in Vip

04:28 <abu[7]> BTW, your link above referst to a GUI session and is only temporary

04:29 <abu[7]> There is always a permanent link to the page shown on bottom

04:30 <abu[7]> pilPretty is not really usable in an editing context, because it loses all read macros and comments

05:02 <pablo_escoberg> OK, thanks. I actually solved it a different way.

05:02 <pablo_escoberg> But you may want to ditch that page from the wiki...

05:12 <abu[7]> Right. Unfortunately there are many ouu-of-date pages in the wiki. They should at least be marked as oblolete

05:12 <abu[7]> I still find an old version of pilPretty: http://pb1n.de/?ba7341

20:23 <pablo_escoberg> Sorry if this comes through twice:  Another newbie question:  Is there a standard method for passing addressable kv pairs (e.g. hashes/dictionaries) to functions?  I tried passing a symbol with properties, but can't quite figure out how to do that, plus it may not be the best fit anyway.  I could use a list of cons pairs, but then I have to

20:23 <pablo_escoberg> search through them.  The solution I'm looking at now is an options object, but that strikes me as rather inelegant.

20:25 <abu[7]> If the list is not too long, the standard Lisp way is association lists

20:25 <abu[7]> assoc, asoq, rassoc, rasoq

20:25 <abu[7]> It is pretty efficient and flexible

20:44 <abu[7]> rassoc and rasoq are also useful in various contexts because they return a 'var'

20:45 <abu[7]> : (setq L '((1 . a) (2 . b) (3 . c)))

20:45 <abu[7]> -> ((1 . a) (2 . b) (3 . c))

20:45 <abu[7]> : (inc (rasoq 'c L))

20:45 <abu[7]> -> 4

20:46 <abu[7]> : L

20:46 <abu[7]> -> ((1 . a) (2 . b) (4 . c))

20:46 <abu[7]> 'get' and 'put' also operate on 'rasoq' lists

20:49 <pablo_escoberg> OK, that will work.  Thanks much.  I seriously don't know how I missed ALL of those in the docs :(.