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<d_bot>
<mseri> That is what rpclib and ppx_deriving_rpc allow you to do, indeed
<d_bot>
<mseri> (Almost)
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<olle>
Does anyone know exactly how rescript was forked off ocaml? Because it seems they are not merging upstream, at all, but stuck in 4.06 for some reason.
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<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> it was forked from the 4.02 tree and updated to 4.06 a few years ago
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> for the "exactly how" part, you'll have to be a bit more specific wrt what you wanna know
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<olle>
Ah ok ok
<olle>
So there is a process to pull upstream, or that is tiresome manual work, maybe?
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> You'll have to ask the ReScript team, but I was under the impression they weren't gonna upgrade anymore
<olle>
k
<olle>
hm
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> olle: a little outdated, but that was one of the motivations for having created melange
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> you can search through history
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> yes, I suppose on IRC it appears "discord bot"
<olle>
Doing it
<companion_cube>
you're just type parameters to d_bot
<olle>
:)
<companion_cube>
d_bot<anmonteiro>
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> aha
<companion_cube>
maybe it's just a phantom type though
<companion_cube>
since you're not really here 🙃
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> how dare you
<olle>
For context, I was looking through support of let* in rescript
<companion_cube>
👻
<olle>
Seems like there's some drama going on tho
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> it's supported in melange
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> we're on 4.14
<olle>
"the toxic fork melange", hehe
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> I don't engage
<olle>
does melange have react bindings?
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> melange has a rescript compatibility layer, most rescript packages work
<olle>
hm
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> melange is sort of an "alternative compiler to rescript"
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> with lots more features
<olle>
I'm not sure such state of affairs is sellable to web dev upper management :|
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> makes sense -- ReScript has actual releases 🙂
<olle>
Sigh
<olle>
I hate the fact that TS has such dominance ><
<d_bot>
<geoff> I don't really do frontend stuff so much, so I haven't done any ocaml -> js yet. What would be the tradeoffs between jsoo and melange if you don't mind me asking (anmonteiro and room I guess if there are people on the jsoo side with an opinion)
<olle>
geoff, first things that's super important in diverse teams: documentation
<olle>
If you wanna argue about adoption, you need to be able to point to a thriving communitye, forums, and docs.
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> a few years old but this should have most of the differences
<d_bot>
<geoff> ah ok, so still relevant to today then? Basically from what I've read over the last couple years in passing buckle/rescript is said to generate more readable and smaller js than jsoo.
<olle>
afaik, jsoo does not integrate out of the box with any major js framework like react, vue, angular
<d_bot>
<geoff> but rescript in particular does so in a more and more dramatic departure from ocaml, with even a different syntax
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<gio123>
hi all
<gio123>
is there someone experienced with concurency in Ocaml?
<olle>
most people, I assume gio123
<olle>
just ask
<gio123>
I have a peace of code, and having hard time to trace it...
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> right. I'd recomment you read the Melange README. we tweaked it for clarity yesterday and I'd love to hear if you have questions after reading it
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> I'm not saying RTFM -- genuinely looking for feedback on whether the message is clear
<gio123>
channels is a list of new_channel () having length m
<gio123>
counters is a list of (spawn_counter n)new_channel () with same length
<gio123>
I have difficulties to trace run chans
<gio123>
can someone help?
<olle>
Yes, but be patient, it's evening in EU
<gio123>
in usa :)?
<olle>
amnoteiro, me? is it on the main site?
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<olle>
gio123: There's also a forum, and a Discord channel for ReasonML that also knows OCaml, if you don't get help here
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> olle: was talking to geoff here on discord
<olle>
oh sorry
<gio123>
olle, if you can give me hint about my problem
<gio123>
I need only just hint
<d_bot>
<geoff> I actually did read that yesterday, including the blog post about motivation. It does give some idea about what melange is wrt buckle/rescript, but since it doesn't mention jsoo, I didn't get an idea of why I'd turn to melange rather than jsoo when the time comes. So that brought me to ask here. Maybe it would be worth adding a section about that?
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> great point
<olle>
It also doesn't mention React, sooooo
<olle>
Why would anyone use rescript and not react?
<olle>
gio123: sorry, going out jogging :) Other will help, but be patient, please.
<gio123>
no hope :(
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> why would anyone use rescript and not react? Because one is JS and another is a library?
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> "one compiles to JS"
<olle>
Ya, but who doesn't use a framework this day and age?
<olle>
Except legacy code.
<olle>
gio123: Describe your precise error message, what you expected to see, and what you saw instead.
<gio123>
I do not get any error message, I just want to trace code...
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<olle>
compile with the stacktrace env setting on
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<gio123>
I think, it will not help
<gio123>
could you please have a look the code?
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> olle: say you're doing server side development with node.js, you might not use react
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> you can still compile to that JS
<gio123>
is anyone here?
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<d_bot>
<darrenldl> so printf didnt work? im confused by what you want
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<olle>
amno, true, yes
<olle>
but then the big benefit of using ocaml is gone - compiling to native
<olle>
so for me, a moot use-case
<olle>
gio123: use printf to write to stdout or stderr
<d_bot>
<darrenldl> olle: i dont know if compiling to native is **the** biggest selling point though : v
<d_bot>
<geoff> how is not having to write js not a selling point?
<olle>
Would any sane person use node.js in the first place, lol
<olle>
idk
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<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> that's a bit of a boring point to make though
<d_bot>
<anmonteiro> the truth is Node.js is used whether you find it sane or otherwise and compiling to it from OCaml when necessary is very pleasing
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<olle>
amnoteiro, I'd agree with that, if you're already stuck with node due to company policy etc
<Anarchos>
olle at work we use node, but the downloads are blocked by our proxy policy....
<olle>
Huh? Which downloads?
<Anarchos>
so everybody ends up downloading Gb on usb keys on their own laptop, and plug the key inside the work LAN :)
<Anarchos>
olle the npm dependencies
<olle>
For security reasons?
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<gio123>
olle, still here?
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<olle>
gio123: Not for long :)
<olle>
gio123: Did you manage to print anything?
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<Soni>
can ocaml output wasm?
<Soni>
(and is the ocaml compiler wasmable?)
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<d_bot>
<Et7f3 (@me on reply)> Anarchos: And when your release the product it come from USB key ? what a nightmare with versionning/npm audit/...
<d_bot>
<Et7f3 (@me on reply)> (I don't know if the message will be received since it it IRC on other side)