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<uvos>
iio-s-p directly, the module is 1. just proxying iio-s-p with no value add and 2. dosent fit into mce because this is the only external interface to a sensor of any kind mce has so its wierd that mce plays hal for just this one sensor
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<sicelo>
understood
<sicelo>
btw how to do more verbose logging for mce
<sicelo>
alarm silences perfectly with face down now ... but not sphone (yet)
<uvos>
we really need a way to disable this now
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<sicelo>
is it really a big problem? i've never had it interfere unintentionally with calls/alarms under Fremantle or even Android
<Wizzup>
sicelo: sweet :)
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<uvos>
Its a massive problem to me
<Wizzup>
like every fremantle default feature :DF
<Wizzup>
:D
<uvos>
if you use the alarm just as a alarm its ok, but if you use it in a position where the alarm is likely to fire while you are walking/working out/moving in general it makes it liable to silence the alarm and those kinds of alarms tend to be most curital (ie medication timers)
<Wizzup>
well it only fires when the position changes rightg
<Wizzup>
it doesn't just silence the alarm immediately when the phone is (already) face down
<uvos>
and yes that happens on occasion
<Wizzup>
I haven't had that on my n900 with fremantle really tbh
<Wizzup>
not sure if we'd want it, big picture doesn't make sense for us :D
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<arno11>
Wizzup: (for big picture) yes indeed :D
<Wizzup>
it also seems to be ps2 I think, so maybe we can't do that anyway
<arno11>
yes it is ps2
<arno11>
awesome emulator btw
<arno11>
but nightmare to run and configure, even on a good desktop machine
<Wizzup>
fair enough
<Wizzup>
:D
<Wizzup>
I need go head out for a bit, I will be back later today, can I help with the drnoksnes stuff?
<arno11>
it already works :D
<Wizzup>
oooh
<Wizzup>
I will test it on the d4 then
<arno11>
cool
<arno11>
hope there is no issue in 24bpp
<arno11>
keyboard scancodes could be an issue on D4 but easy to fix from config file
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<Wizzup>
I was thinking about the different res too
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<arno11>
not sure what will happen, but should work using default armx2 in fullscreen
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<arno11>
on N900 it is already small in window mode
<arno11>
*armx2 scaling in 4:3
<arno11>
if it is too small in fullscreen on D4 then we will need sdlhaa
<Wizzup>
uvos: how to force turn off my mz617
<Wizzup>
it's stuck in some dmesg not starting X and I cannot figure out how to reset it
<arno11>
Wizzup: btw i opened an issue for swap stuff with 6.6
<Wizzup>
ok
<Wizzup>
uvos: vol + and power or vol - and power do not work
<Wizzup>
now the screen is just on and I cna't find my serial :(
<Wizzup>
that's so stupid
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<Wizzup>
vol - worked somehow
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<uvos>
mz617 has the same reset claw as d4
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<arno11>
btw sd card swap (u3) seems to work far better on N900 for multitask: with irssi, calendar, conversations, hamsterfiler, audacious, htop, HAM and maep opened, still able to play picodrive @60fps @600MHz max :D
<arno11>
6.6 seems really stable
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<Wizzup>
uvos: yeah somehow it worked after the 10th time
<Wizzup>
maybe some contact issue
<Wizzup>
arno11 you said you filed an issue for swap, where?
<arno11>
if scancodes are ok: space for start, a s z x for buttons, f for fullscreen (by default)
<arno11>
e for exit
<arno11>
if scancodes are different on D4: the console shows the corresponding scancode when you press a button. we have just to add them in the conf file
<arno11>
for the icon: on n900 it appears immediately after installation (there is postinstall stuff to refresh icon cache)
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<arno11>
i should add a wiki btw
<gnarface>
hey arno11 just out of curiosity what does the output of "dmesg |grep mmc" say?
<gnarface>
(listed speed ratings might explain why you're getting better results with swap on microsd)
<arno11>
i already try but didn't see any relevant stuff unfortunately :(
<arno11>
for better results: ok
<gnarface>
hmm, i was sure it'd say some speed ratings
<gnarface>
for each mmc bus
<gnarface>
it might not actually look like a speed rating
<gnarface>
they have super generic looking names
<arno11>
ah ok
<gnarface>
it might say something like "high speed" which just looks like descriptive fluff but is actually an official rating (25MB/s)
<gnarface>
whereas "default speed" is 12.5MB/s
<gnarface>
UHS, UHS-II, etc are higher
<gnarface>
i don't know if it'd actually say "UHS" or say "ultra high speed"
<gnarface>
but it might give you some ideas of where your physical bus limits are
<gnarface>
afaik it won't actually say a number though
<gnarface>
i assume the emmc and the microsd each get their own bus
<gnarface>
so that means if you're already saturating 25MB/s on the emmc with other traffic then it would make sense that moving swap to the microSD would give better performance
<gnarface>
also, from what i've heard, this is no guarantee that the hardware can't do faster, it's just what the .dts is set at
<gnarface>
(i don't know N900 specifics though other than that it's old, so maybe high speed is the most that can be expected out of it)
<arno11>
ok (and yes both emmc and sd are 'high speed' in dmesg)
<gnarface>
that also would mean that there's little point in buying microSD cards rated at faster speeds than that; you can opt for stuff rated for high durability instead
<arno11>
yes absolutely
<arno11>
but usually the build quality of vry fast cards makes the diff
<arno11>
*very
<gnarface>
sure, i just know that there's specific brands/models that are designed to handle a higher amount of total write cycles before wearing out, and those are usually also not as fast as the top-shelf stuff
<arno11>
ok
<gnarface>
i'm thinking of some specific white-label Samsung ones, but i know there's others
<gnarface>
stuff for industrial purposes and such
<arno11>
ah yes ok
<arno11>
btw samsung evo plus work very well on N900, better than a faster (theorically) sandisk i have
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<gnarface>
interesting
<arno11>
yes indeed
<Wizzup>
arno11: I don't see an icon, and why does the icon not have that command line? :D
<uvos>
the emmc bus can do 50MB/s because its 8bits wide
<Wizzup>
maybe I am just blind
<uvos>
but the maximum speed is totally irrelivant
<uvos>
as no sdcard or emmc chip can do 25MB/s very small random reads
<sicelo>
Wizzup: tion_t orit)
<uvos>
but very small random reads is all that matters for swap
<sicelo>
{
<sicelo>
ugh
<arno11>
Wizzup: i can't add the command line to the icon because you have to specify the game you want to use
<uvos>
modern flash chips are mutch much much much better at this than 2000s era ones
<arno11>
Wizzup: btw i made a yad gui for drnoksnes linked to the icon and it is not too bad
<uvos>
sicelo: did you fix the nan issue?
<sicelo>
which one?
<uvos>
you repoted a nan issue on d4 with this patch
<sicelo>
ah, that was just gdb, as weird as it sounds
<sicelo>
and that was without any patching at all
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<uvos>
ok
<sicelo>
btw, what is now the correct kernel branch to submit patches against?
<uvos>
6.6.y
<sicelo>
want to submit fix for N900 z-axis. tyvm
<sicelo>
will also upstream it, of course
<arno11>
Wizzup: i have to go but let me know for drnoksnes
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<Wizzup>
arno11: huh, drnoksnes comes with a gtk gui
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<arno11>
Wizzup: ?? you mean THE gui or a kind of generic one ?
<arno11>
gui was supposed to be removed but indeed it seems still there lol but returns maemo-invoker error on N900. Maybe not on your D4 ? interesting anyway
<arno11>
curious to see if it works
<sicelo>
uvos: thanks, i see mce PR is merged
<sicelo>
please also take https://github.com/maemo-leste/mce/pull/62 ... otherwise on face up, for example, device will force itself to landscape. apologies for that regression
<sicelo>
and then, of course, this stuff depends on the iio-s-p patch to actually work
<Wizzup>
arno11: why remove the gtk gui was my question?
<arno11>
because of buggy deps but i finally removed them
<arno11>
is it working or ?
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<arno11>
info please :D
<Wizzup>
sorry, I am getting pulled away from the computer
<Wizzup>
it looks like I need to take a bit more time to test this
<Wizzup>
I have only ever used the drnoksnes gui on fremantle
<arno11>
ok no probs
<Wizzup>
when you mean the buggy deps, do you mean the hildon game libs?
<arno11>
i meant xsp stuff, sdlhaa which was finally not needed/related
<arno11>
(understanding what android-808 and clort did was a bit complicated)
<arno11>
hildon libs are fine iirc
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<uvos>
sicelo: ok, i need a bit more time to look at the iio-s-p changes
<sicelo>
sure, no rush
<uvos>
its a bit hard to understand how these changes fit in when the pr contains only a patch
<uvos>
so i need to apply it and look at it first
<uvos>
(not your fault ofc)
<sicelo>
i'll upstream the iio-s-p changes. initial discussions with them seemed positive
<arno11>
Wizzup: lol, looking @logs, big misunderstanding @gui, sorry
<sicelo>
< uvos> its a bit hard to understand how these changes fit in when the pr contains only a patch ___ ah yes, i get what you mean. the patch workflow sucks, but yeah, it is what it is
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<arno11>
Wizzup: got the gui working locally :D
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<arno11>
it works amazingly well: the issue was 2 different config files (gui and emulator) with the same name and same path...so it was not possible to run both
<arno11>
keeping the same name but moving the gui conf file elsewhere with the correct path in desktop file solved the issue
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<arno11>
so i need to make a new release with just 2 small changes and the emulator will work like in fremantle :D
<arno11>
(at least on N900 atm)
<Wizzup>
arno11: sweet!\
<arno11>
yes that's really cool !
<sicelo>
nice progress arno11 ;-)
<arno11>
ty :)
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<arno11>
i always forget to thank you all guys, being always happy to help and available to explain things to a non dev guy like me.
<Wizzup>
well, you contribute a lot too :)
<arno11>
yes i try (at least) :)
<Wizzup>
latest 6.6 also works on mz617
<arno11>
ah cool
<Wizzup>
the race in the ts also seemingly is gone, at least 2/2 tries have been ok
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