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<dakedres> Hey so I picked up a Droid 4 to try daily driving Maemo Leste
<Wizzup> great, any questions?
<Wizzup> (also, I'll be back again later, in a few hours)
<dakedres> Anyone know if there's a way around needing a micro sim?? Just to poke around the base android install
<dakedres> Also is it just standard micro sim? the pins look weird
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<Wizzup> dakedres: you don't need a sim, but if you want to use it as a phone you kind of do
<sicelo> or maybe they mean that annoying thing with having to touch the four corners on a freshly flashed device
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<_uvos_> yeah with the same sdcard als works in a different droid
<_uvos_> so als in this d4 just decided to die
<_uvos_> fun
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<maxwelld> > Hey so I picked up a Droid 4 to try daily driving Maemo Leste
<maxwelld> i do that since january. it is hard, but doable.
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<_uvos_> i also daily my d4, altho i do usually also carry a android phone just in case, i usually dont use it besides giveing the d4 lte
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<dakedres> My goal is to get away from smartphones haha
<dakedres> All I need is calling and music
<dakedres> All I need is call, text and music
<buZz> dakedres: then why not just a phone?
<buZz> calling leste 'not a smartphone' is weird to me
<dakedres> maemo cool
<dakedres> oh, I'm just going to not use it *as* a smartphone
<buZz> so you're not going to use the touchscreen?
<buZz> where you say 'smartphone' you ment PDA, right?
<dakedres> I mean I don't plan to web browse
<dakedres> or use gps
<dakedres> ect
<buZz> oh, ok, that works pretty well though
<buZz> same with gps
<dakedres> Another part of my motivation was needing to text but I loathe touchscreen keyboards lol
<buZz> :)
<dakedres> > oh, ok, that works pretty well though
<dakedres> What doesn't work well? Camera?
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> Grab some Symbian and enjoy it :D
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> Or MeeGo or Maemo. It will be even better, as it's Linux. Will do "not a smartphone but still can do something" very well.
<dakedres> Oh wow
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> I use Symbian as daily phone and it's possible :P
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> (although can be sometimes hard, but I don't mind. My dad uses Symbian as daily phone too)
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> As long as 3G works (works in Poland)
<dakedres> Well I'm atleast pretty sure the droid is 4g
<dakedres> which should still give me very good coverage here in the states
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> Yes, I'm thinking of using Droid 4 as main phone when I receive it :P
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> For now, if 3G dies, I will use Xperia 10 Plus with Sailfish OS
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> Or F(x)tec Pro1 (with Sailfish too)
<buZz> i wish maemo was as fast as symbian
<buZz> dakedres: cameras doesnt 'not work well' it doesnt work at all on droid4
<buZz> someone started trying to implement, afaik they never got an image from it
<buZz> dakedres: droid is ONLY 4g on 'verizon LTE'
<buZz> not on the actual 4G the globe uses
<dakedres> what Noooo
<dakedres> Curse you verizon
<buZz> you misspelled motorola?
<dakedres> haha
<buZz> the hw can do it, motorola limited the implementation
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> Oh no
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> Sad
<buZz> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<dakedres> that's so pain
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> So I will use Sailfish then
<buZz> imho, even 2G is just fine
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> Well I will miss 3G
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> Even for visiting Telegram on my Nokia 808
<buZz> i dont understand what sailfish has to do with limitations of droid4 hardware, but sure
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> <Re m​aemoleste_irc_bot: <buZz> i dont u…> I just mean I will use Sailfish as daily in future
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> Nothing to do with D4
<buZz> could you please just chat, not use dumb reply spaqm
<buZz> -q
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> Sorry, report it to TeleIRC dev, lol
<buZz> i could just kick the bot, np
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> Cool... sorry if the bot spams...
<buZz> no, its you
<tg-bridge-bot> <W​underW_PL> "<Re m​aemoleste_irc_bot: <buZz> i dont u…" is written by bot
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<buZz> fcking nonsense
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<WunderWungiel> Sorry, I didn't mean to spam
<WunderWungiel> Nevermind
<WunderWungiel> The bot teached me to not use bridges anymore, lol
<dakedres> Is maemo leste slower than maemo?
<buZz> no
<buZz> kernel 6 is way faster than kernel 2
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<dakedres> that's what i figured
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<sicelo> you can't really make that kind of comparison
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<_uvos_> i would exect leste to be overall slower on n900, since things hve grown in size and n900 is mostly slow due to ram ressure
<_uvos_> *pressure
<_uvos_> that said, leste is mutch faster because you can run it on mutch better hardware ;)
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<buZz> i remember the amazing faster desktop i got from moving to kernel 2.x to 3.x , and similar increase from 3.x to 4.x
<buZz> but yeah , that was x86
<Wizzup> buZz: I think it was kind of nice that we had a wider reach for to the community with hte bot
<buZz> oh, it was from leste?
<Wizzup> no, they added it, but it wasn't just his
<Wizzup> it was brides to the leste telegram group that someone else runs I think
<Wizzup> I also haven't really caught up with the backlog yet, will in a bit
<buZz> i never seen anyone use it
<buZz> beside this one user
<buZz> sorry, just assumed it was their own
<Wizzup> I used it to chat with some folks, but I don't have a good sense of many there are
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<sicelo> interesting @als dying off
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: welcome back