09:48 <CounterPillow> I tried with eDP. It builds and boots, but doesn't work and takes the whole vop2 with it. WIP dump of code without proper commit attribution etc https://github.com/CounterPillow/linux/commit/671e518eb4dd3f33efc24ea8f4925d9f4f3c6f22

11:10 <Jmabsd> psydroid,*: Guys which are the web sits where I can buy the Radxa Rock5 *coupon code* for 50 USD discount?

11:32 <psydroid> Jmabsd: https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/01/09/rock5-model-b-rk3588-single-board-computer/

11:33 <Jmabsd> sweet! " Radxa distributors, but at this time only two resellers participate in the program namely Ameridroid and Allnetchina."

11:36 <Jmabsd> does anyone want a discount code? can buy.

11:36 <Jmabsd> so in July they will release it with 10gbps ethernet taking 2x PCIe v3 lanes, and the M.2 will have only 2x lanes, which is fine

11:36 <Jmabsd> incredibly powerful

12:26 <Rathann> Jmabsd: is all the hardware supported by mainline kernel?

12:37 <Tenkawa> Rathann: which unit?

12:39 <Tenkawa> Jmabsd: my Odroid-M1 should be here this afternoon and I will be testing mainline on it tonight and tomorrow

12:50 <Jmabsd> Tenkawa: lovely

12:50 <Jmabsd> Tenkawa: i mostly track OpenBSD

12:50 <Jmabsd> yes sure good lock

12:50 <Jmabsd> Rathann: No idea, maybe not. I hope OpenBSD will have good support soon enouh

12:50 <Jmabsd> enough

12:51 <Tenkawa> yes but openbsd will be interested to know how to work with/without petitboot

12:51 <Tenkawa> this one is a bit tricky from what we are reading

12:51 <Jmabsd> Tenkawa: I believe RK3399 had UBoot????

12:51 <Jmabsd> did they change things?

12:51 <Tenkawa> this isnt a rk3399

12:51 <Jmabsd> they changed? =o

12:51 <Jmabsd> why?

12:52 <Tenkawa> the m1 never was going t o be a rk3399... it doesnt have near enough io

12:52 <Jmabsd> Apple M1???

12:52 <Tenkawa> odroid-m1

12:52 <Jmabsd> ahh. sure.

12:53 <Tenkawa> uses the 3568

12:53 <Tenkawa> has much more disk io interfacing options

12:53 <Tenkawa> including native nvme

12:54 <Tenkawa> its meant for industrial and/or fileservers

12:55 <Tenkawa> mine will have 8gb ram on it though so all of my builds will be done in ram then transferred to disk

12:55 <Tenkawa> easy to move 3-4gb to ram and back

13:30 <CounterPillow> nothing supports rk3588 so far aside from whatever BSP sources rockchip provides

14:01 <Tenkawa> CounterPillow: of couse not.. it hasn't even been released yet..

14:02 <CounterPillow> I was responding to "<Rathann> Jmabsd: is all the hardware supported by mainline kernel?"

14:03 <Jmabsd> > <CounterPillow> I tried with eDP. It builds and boots, but doesn't work and takes the whole vop2 with it. WIP dump of code without proper commit attribution etc https://github.com/CounterPillow/linux/commit/671e518eb4dd3f33efc24ea8f4925d9f4f3c6f22

14:03 <Jmabsd> CounterPillow: vop2 what is that

14:04 <Jmabsd> CounterPillow: You are talking about RK3588 on Linux?

14:04 <CounterPillow> vop2 is the video output stuff for rk356x (and also rk3588)

14:08 <Tenkawa> CounterPillow: either way with/without context that reply doesn't matter at this point since the codebase is completely incomplete.

14:08 <Tenkawa> until it is nothing that is being tested right now is going to be accurate

14:10 <Tenkawa> I'm not even convinced the RK3568 I've got coming in today is going to boot

14:11 <CounterPillow> rk3568 is well supported in mainline

14:12 <Tenkawa> not according to armbian devs

14:12 <CounterPillow> Then they're wrong.

14:12 <CounterPillow> You'll be lacking PCIe but there's a patchset on the mailing list for that. Also, the Odroid M1 has a mainline devicetree submitted to the mailing list.

14:13 <Tenkawa> I know... I'm already in contact with one of the devs on that

14:13 <Tenkawa> I worked with a HardKernel dev on the N2/N2+ dev in the past

14:13 <Tenkawa> and RK3399

14:14 <Tenkawa> the mainline kernel was my past life... its my hobby now

14:15 <CounterPillow> I've been using mainline on the rk3566 for a while and it's practically the same chip as the rk3568 bar some details, so your rk3568 definitely boots with mainline if you give it the right device tree, considering there's also people using the rk3568 evb for mainline development

14:15 <Tenkawa> this is a brand new board and revision though... do any of the ones you use run on petitboot?

14:16 <Tenkawa> petitboot is the pain that we have to deal with first..

14:17 <CounterPillow> AFAIK you can literally just bypass it and use u-boot straight from one of the supported boot media. That's what I'd do, personally.

14:18 <Tenkawa> In theory we usually do... Hopefully here too although it appears a tad bit tougher

14:18 <Tenkawa> have a special layout to their image to get around it

14:19 <Tenkawa> will know for sure tonight/tomorrow

20:56 <Jmabsd> Tenkawa: Cool! What did you do

20:57 <Tenkawa> currently trying about to leave the house (got the Odroid-M1 unit sitting in front of me) but when I get back it will be time to try to experimenting

22:02 <Jmabsd> Tenkawa: Did you work fulltime as kernel dev?

22:02 <Tenkawa> in the 90's I split my time yes between Linux kernel and some SVR4 kernel work

22:03 <Tenkawa> since then its been mostly as needed

22:03 <Tenkawa> sysadmin and dba until I retired

22:04 <Tenkawa> I still like doing it when I can but I only do it for a hobby now. Fun hobby though

22:05 <Tenkawa> this little Odroid-M1 is neat looking.. hopefully I'll get it booting tonight/tomorrow

22:07 <Tenkawa> Afk.. time to go try to bike to dinner before it gets too cool...heheh

23:17 <Jmabsd> Guys a bit unrelated, the MIPS64 Cavium OCTEON III 7890, 48 cores, is there an IRC channel for it - are they any good?

23:19 <Jmabsd> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MIPS_architecture_processors interesting there hasn't pretty much been any new MIPS CPU in 9 years

23:28 <psydroid> #mipslinux

23:28 <psydroid> but I doubt anyone is still working with that

23:29 <psydroid> even MIPS the company itself has switched to RISC-V

23:29 <mps> loongson is successor of mips

23:32 <psydroid> I wonder if Loongarch is documented in English

23:35 <Jmabsd> haha

23:36 <Jmabsd> interesting

23:36 <Jmabsd> psydroid,mps: I.e. MIPS64 literally discontinued

23:37 <mps> I think so

23:37 <Jmabsd> RISCV should take off really well. if so for MIPS Ltd. to switch to it, makes sense. bigger market.

23:37 <Jmabsd> but they haven't made any great RISCV CPU:s yet?

23:38 <Jmabsd> btw do you remember the architect behind SPARC, he said he would make enterprise grade RISCV CPU:s - where did that go

23:43 <psydroid> Jmabsd, it is still licensed in China, but as mps said it lives on in Loongarch

23:43 <Jmabsd> is RISCV under license in China?

23:43 <Jmabsd> psydroid: ^

23:44 <psydroid> I know about Dave Ditzel and Dave Patterson, yes

23:44 <psydroid> Jmabsd, anyone can use RISC-V, as it's an open ISA

23:45 <psydroid> Esperanto will have chips out this year

23:45 <Jmabsd> psydroid: wow!?

23:45 <psydroid> from what I've read at least

23:46 <psydroid> yes, that's why it's taking off so fast

23:47 <Jmabsd> "The Esperanto chip, which we covered here, has nearly 1100 power efficient RISC-V cores that have been extended by Esperanto with vector and tensor operations for AI. “On one 7nm chip,” said Founder Dave Ditzel, “we put 1,088 energy-efficient ET-Minion RISC-V processors, each with its own vector/tensor unit; four high-performance ET-Maxion RISC-V processors; over 160 million bytes of on-chip SRAM; and interfaces for external DRAM and

23:47 <Jmabsd> flash memory.” " ow

23:48 <Jmabsd> psydroid: who is Dave Patterson?

23:51 <psydroid> Jmabsd, the original person behind RISC and Dave Ditzel was his student

23:51 <Jmabsd> https://www.esperanto.ai/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/HC2021.Esperanto.Ditzel.Final_.pdf

23:51 <Jmabsd> cool

23:52 <psydroid> RISC-I, that is

23:55 <psydroid> Dave Ditzel was also the CEO of Transmeta when Linus worked there

23:55 <Jmabsd> psydroid: re Transmeta, cool. eventually they did not really reach anything did they

23:55 <psydroid> I wouldn't be surprised if at least a few of those people are now at Esperanto

23:55 <Jmabsd> psydroid: is there anything noteworthy to say about Esperanto?

23:58 <psydroid> Jmabsd, other than the claim that they offer much more performance at much lower power consumption and that you can probably program their chips using free tools rather than closed source ones?

23:59 <psydroid> I don't know, but I think they have the potential to rock the industry

23:59 <Tenkawa> psydroid: just saw the little bit of what my buffer caught before my computer went to sleep. I was using Unix in 1979 and Linux in 1993