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<_whitenotifier-f> [glasgow] ewenmcneill commented on issue #441: udev rules on Arch(-ish) systems - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/issues/441#issuecomment-1754143191
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<supersat[m]> I'm looking at the spi controller applet and see where the FIFO `r_en` and `w_en` are set, but I don't see how they get cleared. Is that automatic somehow?
<omnitechnomancer> If no other path drives a signal it defaults to its reset value
<supersat[m]> aha
<omnitechnomancer> Well at least for comb
<omnitechnomancer> For sync if the path doesn't happen then it just retains its previous value I believe
<Attie[m]> yep - combinational logic can be thought of like discrete gates... when the visitation goes away the result changes
<Attie[m]> synchronous logic advances on a clock edge
<Attie[m]> *visitation - wow.. uhh.. I think that was supposed to be "condition"
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<sven> the glasgow software installation on mac os was very pleasant. it just worked on the first try. very nice work :-)
<sven> pipx only complained about "Ignoring --editable install option. pipx disallows it for anything but a local path, to avoid having to create a new src/ directory." which is fine with me since I'll setup a venv if I need to change something anyway
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<icb[m]> I think that's a recently fixed pipx bug https://github.com/pypa/pipx/issues/1070
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<sven> sounds like the same thing
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<shiz> cursed thought: running a riscv softcore on top of the ice40
<alethkit> bunnie is ahead of you on that one: https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/precursor
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<Alex`[m]> Hi, I'm an early bird backer from EU and so far I haven't get the shipment notification, should I worry?
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<Attie[m]> Have you confirmed you definitely got an early bird unit?
<Attie[m]> if yes, I wouldn't worry just yet, but perhaps esden @_discord_269693955338141697:catircservices.org can get insight from the CS/Mouser end
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<esden[m]> Alex` (@_discord_212304142163509259:catircservices.org) I would confirm that your order is definitely "Early Bird" first. As described in the latest update: https://www.crowdsupply.com/1bitsquared/glasgow/updates/early-bird-glasgows-are-shipping
<shiz> Alex`[m]: I only got my shipping notification today while an early bird
<esden[m]> As far as I have insight there are still about a dozen Early Bird that are not shipped yet.
<Attie[m]> good to know, thanks shiz
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<grymoire[m]> Any news on when the next batch os shipping? Do I really have to wait 4 more months?
<grymoire[m]> * Any news on when the next batch (non-early-bird) is shipping? Do I really have to wait 4 more months?
<esden[m]> .grymoire (@_discord_525486749670178828:catircservices.org) I will not be making predictions. I work as hard as I can to ship early but I can't predict all the details. So I appreciate everyone's patience.
<shiz> ... actuallly...
<shiz> nevermind, i'm not an early bird
<shiz> :x
<esden[m]> Some non early bird enclosures were fulfilled according to the data I see.
<Alex`[m]> I can see "Glasgow revC - Early Bird / Glasgow Aluminum Case - Early Bird" ; thank you for the confirmation, I guess it's a matter of days now 🙂
<shiz> yea, i got the encosure this week
<shiz> and an email from crowdsupply about the main order because my phone number was wrong
<shiz> today
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<esden[m]> Yeah they slowly fulfill things. Keep in mind if you ordered an "early bird" case with a NON early bird Glasgow as a single order. Those will ship together when the non early bird Glasgow becomes available.
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<esden[cis]> shiz: ahh yeah, I hope you were able to sort it out. :)
<shiz> yepyep!
<whitequark[cis]> shiz: you could add an ice40 on the FPGA but it would not provide you with many benefits and there will be lots of drawbacks
<shiz> isn't the fpga already an ice40? :p
<whitequark[cis]> err, a risc-v on the FPGA
<galibert[m]> Yo, I heard you like fpgas so I put a fpga in your fpga
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<supersat[m]> will i damage the included cables if I shove them on to DB-25 connector pins? they're slightly bigger than standard 0.1" header pins
<supersat[m]> oh, and is it possible to add the integrated logic analyzer to an applet? the documentation suggests this is possible for debugging applets, but doesn't really say how
<whitequark[cis]> glasgow run --trace output.vcd <applet args as normal>
<esden[m]> supersat (@_discord_342359737444204544:catircservices.org) the internal springs in the connectors might bend permanently if you do that. I am not sure I have not tried.
<tpw_rules> i would not do it, i've ruined some nice cables that way :(
<icb[m]> DB-25 breakouts are plentiful and inexpensive
<_whitenotifier-f> [glasgow] attie reviewed pull request #440 commit - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/440#discussion_r1353418319
<_whitenotifier-f> [glasgow] whitequark reviewed pull request #440 commit - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/440#discussion_r1353427836
<_whitenotifier-f> [glasgow] whitequark reviewed pull request #440 commit - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/440#discussion_r1353428726
<_whitenotifier-f> [glasgow] attie reviewed pull request #440 commit - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/440#discussion_r1353429671
<_whitenotifier-f> [glasgow] whitequark reviewed pull request #440 commit - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/440#discussion_r1353430110
<_whitenotifier-f> [glasgow] whitequark reviewed pull request #440 commit - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/440#discussion_r1353431522
<_whitenotifier-f> [glasgow] github-merge-queue[bot] created branch gh-readonly-queue/main/pr-440-22939ca6e7ce5acdecaec5e495eac39536955a15 - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow
<_whitenotifier-f> [glasgow] whitequark reviewed pull request #440 commit - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/440#discussion_r1353442039
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<_whitenotifier-f> [GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow] github-merge-queue[bot] pushed 1 commit to main [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/compare/22939ca6e7ce...f3e3be347b31
<_whitenotifier-f> [GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow] whitequark f3e3be3 - cli: add platform, architecture, and OS version to `--version` output.
<_whitenotifier-f> [glasgow] attie closed pull request #440: cli: add platform, architecture, and OS version to `--version` output - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/440
<_whitenotifier-f> [glasgow] attie closed issue #400: Add host OS version to `--version` output - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/issues/400
<_whitenotifier-f> [glasgow] github-merge-queue[bot] deleted branch gh-readonly-queue/main/pr-440-22939ca6e7ce5acdecaec5e495eac39536955a15 - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow
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<supersat[m]> yes but I don't have one here *now*. But I guess I'll wait
<supersat[m]> was gonna see if my Saturn Pro Action Replay applet worked, but I guess that will need to wait. Lots of other interesting retro console opportunities too... like serial comms over the sega genesis controller port 👀
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