<ewenmcneill[m]>
whitequark: As a low priority thing, is there any option for the bridge into Discord to turn the HTML "apos" entities back into actual apostrophes, rather than inline (well formed but shouldn't be in UI) HTML entities? I'm guessing something is, eg, being double escaped, possibly due to the quote character? Possibly being escaped on both sides of the IRC <-> Matrix <-> Discord bridge?
<whitequark[cis]>
ewenmcneill: there is no option, it's just a bug
<whitequark[cis]>
so the bug is in matrix-appservice-irc
<whitequark[cis]>
and possibly also matrix-appservice-discord?
<whitequark[cis]>
whichever way it is, i will not be fixing bugs like this; i have better things to do. however if some of you fix it and merge it upstream I will deploy it
<ewenmcneill[m]>
whitequark: Thanks for investigating, and confirming it's a bug in the upstream software. I do agree there's little point in trying to locally patch such a bug. Hopefully it does get fixed upstream. (I'd wondered if there escape/do-not-escape was a config item. But it seems not, must not fully debugged upstream.)
<whitequark[cis]>
do not hope it will get fixed upstream; the upstream explicitly said that they do not and will not dedicate any significant amount of resources to IRC 'because of the french'
<ewenmcneill[m]>
sigh
<whitequark[cis]>
the reason I run my own bridges in first place isn't actually convenience but the deep organizational failure in New Vector Ltd
<whitequark[cis]>
it will not get any better
<whitequark[cis]>
you will have to fix it yourself
<whitequark[cis]>
having better IRC<>Discord sync is really just a... what's the expression
<whitequark[cis]>
a silver lining?
<whitequark[cis]>
note, I am not talking about Half-Shot (the bridge author/maintainer) who is just an overworked contributor doing their best. I am talking about the New Vector Ltd management
<ewenmcneill[m]>
Having a three way bridge is definitely useful. And this bridge is *by far* the cleanest bridge of the IRC/Matrix/Discord bridges I've seen. Thanks for running it.
<whitequark[cis]>
you're welcome
<whitequark[cis]>
I do hope it helps bring the community together
<whitequark[cis]>
I'm not really willing to have either IRC-side or Discord-side folks feel second-class
<SnoopJ>
🤍
<whitequark[cis]>
plus without IRC we would have no logs
<whitequark[cis]>
'cause Discord doesn't exist in long term, and Matrix isn't really archived in a meaningful sense
<ewenmcneill[m]>
Yes, one of the reasons I tend to read bridged channels on the Discord side is for the log history. (I mostly don't use Matrix.)
<ewenmcneill[m]>
But of course the Discord logs aren't very public 😢
<whitequark[cis]>
actually, I guess the Matrix room is visible over at https://view.matrix.org/room/!EDwUemPmPNSHXcaynd:catircservices.org/ ?
<ewenmcneill[m]>
Yes, I can load that view.matrix.org page without any Matrix login..
<whitequark[cis]>
I don't actually like that too much because if someone posts PII there's no especially good way to remove it
<whitequark[cis]>
whereas with my logger I promptly respond to such requests
<ewenmcneill[m]>
Yes, that's the unfortunate problem with third party public logging -- if it's posted, it ends up public "forever".
<whitequark[cis]>
well
<whitequark[cis]>
anything you say anywhere with open attendance gets logged forever
<whitequark[cis]>
but with irclog.whitequark.org, it is often the sole place where something ends up being visible
<ewenmcneill[m]>
Also FTR, the view.matrix.org view can be scrolled back through ("load older") in chunks; I got back to 2023-08-07 without problems.
<whitequark[cis]>
so removing it there means functionally eliminating it
<whitequark[cis]>
that it's so old certainly does help