01:37 <delthas> dnkl: would there be a way to get and properly reset the terminal cursor shape on exit of an app? if not, could that be a new spec/change we could introduce?

03:59 <dnkl> delthas: DECRQSS to get the current shape on entry, then use the regular escape to set the shape on exit

04:51 <cbb> delthas: https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/1604#issuecomment-596123675

04:51 <cbb> https://invisible-island.net/xterm/ctlseqs/ctlseqs.html#:~:text=%E2%87%92%C2%A0%20DECSCUSR

15:00 <MistakeNot> i'd like to have foot switch to a different theme while i'm in an ssh session connected to a remote machine and i'm trying to think of a good way to go about doing that.

15:01 <j`ey> MistakeNot: using OSC10/11

15:01 <j`ey> there's something called theme.sh

15:24 <MistakeNot> j`ey, thanks

15:24 <dnkl> MistakeNot: you can also choose where the script with the OSC-4/10/11/12 sequences should be: locally, run just before connecting, or remotely, run by e.g the shell rc scripts

15:25 <dnkl> regardless, you likely want to restore the theme locally, after disconnecting

15:25 <MistakeNot> yes

15:26 <MistakeNot> a wrapper script around ssh seems a bit messy though, i guess i'm wondering if there's a more efficient way

15:27 <dnkl> you might also be interested in the new push/pop escapes that was recently added to master

15:27 <j`ey> seems like ssh has a LocalCommand config option, maybe you can add it in there

15:33 <MistakeNot> dnkl, is there documentation for that?

15:34 <MistakeNot> j`ey, hmm that could work. doesn't seem like there's a way to run a command once disconnected to restore the theme but that's not the end of the world

15:36 <j`ey> I was trying to look up if there was a way to do that

15:37 <MistakeNot> the fact this isn't a Solved problem gives me pause though

15:38 <MistakeNot> or rather, that this apparently isn't the solution other people are landing on to easily differentiate terminals running a remote connection

15:38 <dnkl> MistakeNot: lots of people change the theme at runtime, but haven't heard of anyone wanting to do it while ssh:ing

15:39 <MistakeNot> dnkl, blackbox-terminal supports the feature FWIW

15:40 <MistakeNot> except there i think it's changing gtk decorations to red for ssh and sudo but same idea

15:40 <j`ey> I wonder how it knows about ssh/sudo

15:41 <dnkl> the terminal have to start looking at what's currently running to be able to do that. That's a guessing game, and we don't do that in foot. That's intentional, and won't change

15:41 <dnkl> j`ey: you can look at the process tree and identity the "leaf" process

15:41 <j`ey> dnkl: :|

15:41 <j`ey> im looking to see if thats what it does

15:42 <dnkl> but say you recognize "sudo". What about "doas"? Or the new fangled run0? What about tomorrow's new thingy you don't even know the name of?

15:43 <j`ey> command.has_prefix ("ssh") { process.context = ProcessContext.SSH; ..

15:43 <j`ey> MistakeNot: using an alias or something is probably the best way, since ssh doesnt have a LocalCommandExit

15:43 <MistakeNot> last i checked the feature was broken in blackbox-terminal anyway, so...

15:44 <j`ey> I saw a suggestion to use a LocalCoammnd that waits for it's parent command to exit..

15:44 <MistakeNot> oh that's not bad

15:45 <dnkl> MistakeNot: re documentation. xterm's "ctlseqs" is where you want to look

15:45 <dnkl> the new push/pop escapes are called XTPUSHCOLORS and XTPOPCOLORS

15:45 <dnkl> OSC-4/10 etc are also documented in the same document

15:48 <MistakeNot> dnkl, thanks i'll take a look

15:50 <dnkl> MistakeNot: just remember those new escapes aren't in any released versions of foot yet

15:51 <j`ey> you'd still need a wrapper or something around ssh to do the XTPOPCOLORS

18:37 <kaisan> MistakeNot: let us know your progress please. Im interested in something similar. Im used to having different backgrounds depending on the remote environment (otap).

21:19 <MistakeNot> dnkl, j`ey, kaisan: got it working thanks for all your help: https://paste.ec/paste/Z00afOKP#eAwBs4b4WvoiCoQqtKO-9bxxxVN0okVwx1VmPjutVOn

21:27 <j`ey> MistakeNot: nice!

21:27 <MistakeNot> note there's an issue where 'cursor' isn't being restored. probably to do with it being the last item? looking into it