<peetee>
err: wayland.c:1211: failed to connect to wayland; no compositor running?
<peetee>
info: main.c:670: goodbye
<peetee>
Is it only me getting this kind of error?
<sochotnicky>
peetee: means you are either trying to run foot on Xorg or you are missing some environment variables (i.e. WAYLAND_DISPLAY)
<peetee>
Why is it made so complicated? 😫
<sochotnicky>
it's not...
<sochotnicky>
it works by default unless people do weird stuff in their envs
<peetee>
sochotnicky: I didn't do anything, its new my os installed yesterday
<peetee>
Wtf is wayland? When firefox is running peacefully what's problem with foot to open?
<peetee>
If just for using a terminal I've to stuggle like this when how will I use other apps?
<novakane>
what DE/WM are you using?
<peetee>
I'm running vncserver
<peetee>
I run firefox by running `export DISPLAY=:1 && firefox`
<peetee>
Simple and easy
<peetee>
> what DE/WM are you using?
<peetee>
Xfce4 btw
<peetee>
novakane: ^
<novakane>
yeah but are you using gnome, sway, i3, whatever, on the computer you trying to open foot?
<novakane>
ah ok
<peetee>
What's the issue?
<novakane>
well I don't think Xfce4 support wayland so you can't use foot
<peetee>
A GUI should be as simple as possible to run
<peetee>
> well I don't think Xfce4 support wayland so you can't use foot
<peetee>
But why they don't support wayland? Xfce4 is most used de
<peetee>
I choosed xfce4 over lxqt/kde because its lightweight and looks good
<novakane>
I don't know, I'm not even sure if that the case, you need to know if there is wayland support or not as foot is only for walyand
<peetee>
Walyand?
<novakane>
Wayland is an alternative to X11
<Orbstheorem>
wayland is very different from x11. I wouldn't be surprised a different project with similar goals to xfce4 exists, since writing a compositor/DE for both X11 and wayland will likely hugely complexify a codebase.
<sochotnicky>
peetee: you should just use whatever terminal your OS/DE provides as default if you are new to Linux (which seems to be the case). Optimize later once you feel more comfortable...
<Orbstheorem>
Agreed.
<sochotnicky>
What you are doing is called "premature optimization" in development circles :-)
<sochotnicky>
peetee: but to expand on "why doesn't it support wayland" - because it makes the code much simpler to maintain. There are plenty of options for X11/older systems that do not want to move to Wayland
<Orbstheorem>
A great example is i3 and it's wayland equivalent sway. Both are awesome project implementing the same functionnality but focusing on different platforms.
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<phaitonican[m]>
Hi guys. I changed my foot.ini file to change the font size, is there a way to reload the file ?
<dnkl>
phaitonican[m]: besides restarting foot? No, there isn't
<phaitonican[m]>
Hmm it doesnt seem to effect, I do something wrong...
<phaitonican[m]>
I use gentoo and my foot.ini is in /usr/share/foot/foot.ini, I should maybe copy to my .config/foot folder ?
<dnkl>
yeah, the one in /usr/share is just an example conf. it isn't loaded from there. so yeah, copy it to ~/.config/foot/foot.ini
<phaitonican[m]>
dnkl: Ah yes that was it thanks very much
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<hexa->
so, when will foot catch up with warp?
<hexa->
if only the announcement came a few days earlier, this would've been a great aprils fools
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<dnkl>
I read "all cloud features are opt-in" and immediately stopped reading...
<mx08>
I watched the video and made it 70% through, until "A.I. command search"
<mx08>
Tbh I think some of the features are interesting, like command completion in a pop-up-menu.
<dnkl>
all new things must obviously be AI based. Just like it has to be rust, and GPU accelerated
<mx08>
Yeah :(
<dnkl>
I think the way to do that is with a defined interface between the terminal and the shell. Kitty for example, offers some level of shell integration.
<Orbstheorem>
mx08: I use fzf for something alike.
<Orbstheorem>
I like the fact of it being able to render "more than just text".
<Orbstheorem>
But it feels too "let's embed a web browser in a terminal" to me.
<dnkl>
yeah, I suspect they'll end up with a very loosely defined API between their terminal and their shell, making it more or less hopeless for any other shell to make any use of it
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* Orbstheorem
thinks there should rather be a better 21st century terminal specification
<Orbstheorem>
> <@dnkl:libera.chat> yeah, I suspect they'll end up with a very loosely defined API between their terminal and their shell, making it more or less hopeless for any other shell to make any use of it
<Orbstheorem>
dnkl: They claim that staying compatible with zsh, fish, ... is one of their goals.
<Orbstheorem>
* They claim that staying compatible with zsh, fish, ... is one of their goals though.
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<dnkl>
pretty sure they do. That just means they implement the VT spec. What'll be interresting to see is how much of the new stuff will work in plain shells
<rj1>
i love foot!!!
<dnkl>
time will tell... For them to really make a change, terminal applications, *and* other terminal emulators will have to pick up some of their new features...
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<Lord>
one interesting feature of warp are "blocks"
<Lord>
I'd love having a way to differentiate the input from the output while scrolling
<Lord>
and a keybind to scroll to the previous/next input
<mx08>
dnkl: Your last commit message is wrong, you escaped `_` not `-`. Not sure how much you care about it, but right now you could just --amend it...
<mx08>
Sorry I'm such a nitpicker :/
<dnkl>
mx08: might amend tomorrow, if I remember, and nothing else have been pushed before then... Not super important (and not the first commit typo either...)
<mx08>
Ok. Just wanted to mention it :)
<Orbstheorem>
Out of curiosity, what timezone are you people in? ^^
<dnkl>
Lord: kitty has a better foundation for doing that, imho. There, it's all spec:ed out, and can work with bash and zsh. I.e it doesn't require a custom "command line editor"
<Orbstheorem>
(UTC+2 o/)
<dnkl>
Orbstheorem: utc+1
<mx08>
UTC+2, with a f'ed up sleep rhythm
<mx08>
*sleeping schedule (I think)
* Orbstheorem
discretely whispers "Yay, not the only one"