09:28 <cbb> dnkl: it seems like this[1] section of the wiki might be somewhat outdated too

09:28 <cbb> [1]: https://codeberg.org/dnkl/foot/wiki#sudo-error-opening-terminal-or-similar

09:36 <dnkl> cbb: I think I'll simply remove it. 1.9.0 isn't in any LTS releases (that I'm aware of)

09:38 <cbb> dnkl: yeah, sounds reasonable to me

09:40 <cbb> dnkl: I was wondering...would it ever make any sense to use an emoji font as primary font

09:40 <cbb> with a Unicode range constraint

09:40 <cbb> and then put the real "primary" font as a fallback

09:40 <dnkl> cbb: btw, I'm considering closing https://codeberg.org/dnkl/foot/pulls/741. I'm not sure how I want to deal with it instead. But I

09:41 <dnkl> m fairly sure

09:41 <dnkl> I don't want to #ifdef it

09:41 <cbb> dnkl: yeah, no worries

09:41 <cbb> I was going to close it myself

09:41 <dnkl> I think using an emoji font as primary font will work

09:41 <dnkl> I've been meaning to test it actually, but keep forgetting

09:44 <dnkl> in fact, I think you wont even need to use a range constraint. Emoji fonts doesn't cover any non-emoji codepoints, so we'll fallback anway

09:44 <cbb> dnkl: ah yeah, that makes sense

09:45 <cbb> It seemed somehow "hackish" when I first thought of doing it, but I think it's the names "primary" and "fallback" that give that impression

09:45 <cbb> it makes more sense if I just think of them as an ordered list

09:46 <dnkl> initially, there *was* a difference in fcft, and that has colored my language. But nowadays, even fcft just treats it like a list.

09:47 <cbb> I'll try to think of a better solution to #741

09:47 <dnkl> thanks!

09:48 <dnkl> I've removed https://codeberg.org/dnkl/foot/wiki#sudo-error-opening-terminal-or-similar from the wiki. Have some errands to run now, but we'll try to take a look at updating the fontconfig example

09:48 <dnkl> later

09:49 <cbb> dnkl: 👍

13:20 <dnkl> cbb: https://codeberg.org/dnkl/foot/wiki/Joypixels. I couldn't find a way to add a plain text file to the wiki. Images can be added, but codeberg seems to special case them.

13:20 <dnkl> I also added a sidebar and a footer

13:20 <dnkl> (not related to the fontconfig file)

13:22 <cbb> dnkl: nice, seems like a good solution

13:23 <cbb> Although if we cut it down to just the relevant part, it may be small enough to inline into the wiki

13:24 <dnkl> depending on what you want, exactly, the whole file is needed. However, the part with the ranges could be inlined

13:25 <cbb> ah yeah, probably best to keep the whole thing

13:25 <cbb> it's well commented anyway

13:25 <cbb> if people want to pick out parts

13:27 <cbb> dnkl: perhaps the part under the last comment should be omit though

13:27 <cbb> omitted*

13:27 <cbb> since the wiki says: "To use this, copy its content to /etc/fonts/conf.avail/75-joypixels.conf"

13:27 <cbb> and that last block might have unintended consequences

13:28 <dnkl> hmm, yeah... we could at least comment it out, I guess

13:31 <dnkl> updated: last section is now commented out

13:41 <cbb> dnkl: nice, I'm going to use that instead of fallback fonts in foot.ini

13:43 <dnkl> I would too, except fontconfig sizes it slightly too large... That's the only reason I have it as a fallback in foot.ini, to be able to set the size myself

13:43 <cbb> dnkl: ah yeah, that's a good point

14:07 <cbb> dnkl: so I guess what I was saying earlier about "primary"/"fallback" vs "just a list" isn't really accurate?

14:07 <cbb> since the primary font determines the cell size

14:07 <cbb> or at least I'm assuming it does...

14:11 <dnkl> cbb: correct. In terms of glyph lookup, it's just an ordered list. But yes, cell size is determined by the primary font alone

21:00 <cbb> <cbb> dnkl: perhaps the part under the last comment should be omit though uit

21:01 <cbb> oops

21:01 <cbb> ignore that message 😆

21:17 <Nulo> Notifications do not disappear when focusing the Foot window again