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[contrib.git/3.6]: libmicrohttpd: updated to version 0.9.74
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<MeCrumbly429>
Hi
<MeCrumbly429>
I've been having some issues using wpa_supplicant. whenever I try to connect with it (yes, I used wpa_passphrase PROPERLY [wpa_passphrase ******** | tee /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf]), It gives me the "failed to connect to p2p driver interface" error message. After some time spitting out errors, it connects to my network, but it won't let me use the background option without failing.
<ocb>
MeCrumbly429: what card is it? also you tried providing net.ifnames=0; biosdevname=0 ?
<MeCrumbly429>
hang on, need to get back to my computer
<MeCrumbly429>
In case you need to know, I attempted inside a chroot during my installation.
<ocb>
attempted what exactly?
<MeCrumbly429>
connecting with wpa
<MeCrumbly429>
I made sure wireless-tools was installed too
<ocb>
can you provide "net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" as additional kernel parameters to your bootloader and reboot the machine?
<ocb>
this will prevent interface renaming and possibly fix the issue
<MeCrumbly429>
I'll try that.
<MeCrumbly429>
thanks (for now)
<MeCrumbly429>
!
<ocb>
you are using syslinux, grub, lilo?
<MeCrumbly429>
I don't have a bootloader installed yet. I'm running off chroot
<ocb>
ah i see
<MeCrumbly429>
How exactly do I access the kernel parameters for grub at boot time?
<ocb>
im on lilo and syslinux haven't used grub for years but think it should be written on the bottom of screen, possibly 'e' key to modify kernel parameters.
<MeCrumbly429>
sure hang on
<MeCrumbly429>
Kay. I'm at the screen.
<ocb>
yes it seems its 'e' according to guuugle
<MeCrumbly429>
Let me try the parameters now
<MeCrumbly429>
Done. I hope I did it right
<MeCrumbly429>
I've got to run the setup script again though...
<MeCrumbly429>
See you in a few minutes!
<ocb>
:-)
<MeCrumbly429>
Thanks. Thought the place was empty for a minute.
<MeCrumbly429>
I'm no stranger to empty channels. The IRC for Lunar Linux was particularly inactive
<ocb>
eh you're probably luck at this time of night (4am)
<MeCrumbly429>
I'm in Los angeles time by the way. It's 7:00 here :)
<MeCrumbly429>
(Actually, I'm in Washington state, but who cares)
<ocb>
i hear its harder and harder in the US but it might be misinformation passed by the mainstream media /takesofftinfoilhat
<ocb>
hopefully you have a fun evening/night
<ocb>
i'll be here, let know if it works out for you
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<MeCrumbly429>
Hang on, HexChat crapped out on me, gtg for a minute
<MeCrumbly429>
Wouldn't let me log in
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<MeCrumbly429>
I'm back now
<MeCrumbly429>
Had some network issues
<MeCrumbly429>
Wpa_supplicant works just fine now
<MeCrumbly429>
Thanks for your help!
<MeCrumbly429>
Now, what exactly were those kernel parameters from earlier? I need them later for configuration once I install grub (I'm using a different client, I can't look at chat history)
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<MeCrumbly429>
Nevermind. Went back into hexchat and copied it.
<MeCrumbly429>
I'm probably gonna need some help later on the bootloader installation (I use grub, and I don't know how to properly set up the kernel for grub to find it.)
<ocb>
sure
<ocb>
so the kernel params fixed it or it fixed itself?
<MeCrumbly429>
the kernel parameters helped it (I think, at least)
<MeCrumbly429>
I've got them copied right here (I'm on my secondary system right now)
<ocb>
glad you got it working :
<MeCrumbly429>
Alright. Now, what exactly is that link?
<MeCrumbly429>
Oh sorry
<MeCrumbly429>
well anyways, I'll see you if I've got any more problems.
<MeCrumbly429>
Thanks!
<ocb>
have fun :)
<MeCrumbly429>
Sure man! (I only truly got CRUX set up once, and it was on a VM. It was a blast, but I didn't have the proper display drivers and it was a little laggy.
<MeCrumbly429>
As a side topic, Ever try Lunar Linux?
<ocb>
crux is nice, i have it running on few bare metal machines and some virtual machine. no i haven't tried lunar, lately i try to stick with either crux or netbsd. it takes time to get used to a new distro, so i kind of avoid it and spend time doing something else.. but to be honest was considering to look into void linux per Mellowlink 's reccomendation
<ocb>
i'll look at lunar linux just to see what it is
<MeCrumbly429>
It's another source distro. It's got some interesting quirks (bash-based source package management, Per package USE flags, etc)
<ocb>
sounds interesting, will get the iso to hopefully try in vm sometime :)
<MeCrumbly429>
Hope you have a good time! (I tried installing it, but couldn't get xorg to install)
<Mellowlink>
hello ocb
<ocb>
hello Mellowlink :) how are you doing
<MeCrumbly429>
Also, if that doesn't suit you, Source Mage linux has the same base code, but more of a focus towards Sysadmins.
<ocb>
Mellowlink: it takes time to inspect all those and to consider using them for something in production :) but its always fun on the internet
<ocb>
sorry wrong hl, you are both on M
<MeCrumbly429>
I wonder, Why can't I ping URLs in chroot?
<MeCrumbly429>
(The ping command isn't there)
<MeCrumbly429>
is there a package I'm missing?
<ocb>
iputils
<ocb>
you can find that by 'prt-get fsearch ping'
<MeCrumbly429>
Thanks!
<MeCrumbly429>
hang on, I don't have meson installed. This may take a while
<MeCrumbly429>
I wonder, how often do builds fail in CRUX?
<MeCrumbly429>
I remember the last time I used it, I couldn't get a working file manager, even from contrib, because the builds failed. I don't want help, I just wonder if that's typical.
<Mellowlink>
i'm fine thx
<ocb>
MeCrumbly429: they usually fail for me if some dependency is missing, other than that pretty rarely ie python-setuptools-scm iirc was an issue
<MeCrumbly429>
Thanks.
<MeCrumbly429>
You make your own packages often?
<ocb>
not too many, only the ones that are mising in portdb. maybe a total of 20-25
<MeCrumbly429>
Well, I'm compiling my kernel now.
<MeCrumbly429>
Do you know where the network cards are in Menuconfig?
<MeCrumbly429>
Sorry, nevermind.
<MeCrumbly429>
Menuconfig's confusing
<ocb>
search can help
<MeCrumbly429>
Wait a minute...
<MeCrumbly429>
There's a search function?
<ocb>
afaik there is in 'nconfig'
<ocb>
its F8 iirc
<MeCrumbly429>
Ah well. I've used nconfig once before, but not much really.
<MeCrumbly429>
I can search in menuconfig by pressing /
<MeCrumbly429>
not sure if it's much better though.
<MeCrumbly429>
Do you prefer nconfig?
<ocb>
im ok with both, no special preference. although im not very familiar with under-the-hood differences
<MeCrumbly429>
Well, I'm off to kernel compilation now. Gonna take a while, cause this guy has a quad-core i3 broadwell straight out of 2015.
<MeCrumbly429>
There isn't really much of a difference, just a slimmer UI/UX
<ocb>
that's good, im still running my i7-3720QM from 2013 iirc
<MeCrumbly429>
But this guy is a budget machine
<MeCrumbly429>
from the same era
<MeCrumbly429>
It's served me well over the years, but it's kinda a pain in the UX department (ouch, that trackpad...)
<ocb>
eh trackpad, have it disabled in bios at all times so i can't even use it and get nervous about it
<ocb>
had some ibm t42
<ocb>
but i don't know where they ended up, im so sad i lost them
<Mellowlink>
that should have trackpoint
<Mellowlink>
when using thinkpad theres no reason to use trackpad
<MeCrumbly429>
I've got a macbook pro from 2012 with Linux Mint on it (i'm using it to chat right now), but it's an absoulte pain. Nvidia graphics drivers that not even ubuntu supports (black screen @ boot every time), Broadcom wi-fi drivers (I've got minimal access to ethernet), A CPU throttling issue where the desktop freezes whenever It pleases, Bugged suspends, and more
<Mellowlink>
trackpoints are just much better
<MeCrumbly429>
I see.
<MeCrumbly429>
I'm used to trackpads though
<MeCrumbly429>
(I use keybinds a lot, but I've never used a trackpoint)
<MeCrumbly429>
Anyways, I wonder if there's a way to do a full system rebuild?
<MeCrumbly429>
Like, every package?
<ocb>
MeCrumbly429: are you familiar with prt-get ?
<MeCrumbly429>
Not really. I know the basic syntax though.
<MeCrumbly429>
Sorry for the late reply
<MeCrumbly429>
Anyways, is there a rebuild command?
<ocb>
MeCrumbly429: prt-get is a package management tool to make the rebuild easy for you. fingerprints, footprints etc. are checked. you can ie use 'prt-get sysup --test' to see what is going to be upgraded then 'prt-get sysup' .. if you don't want to upgrade some use 'prt-get lock' or to upgrade only one or few 'prt-get update ...'
<ocb>
of course there is 'prt-get help' :))
<MeCrumbly429>
Wait, prt-get sysup is a rebuild command? I thought it updated only out-of-date packages for some reason
<MeCrumbly429>
THAT's why "Updates" took so long on my VM!
<ocb>
sysup is an update/upgrade command. it won't rebuild everything.
<ocb>
but i think you can easily rebuild everything if you wish.
<ocb>
-fr Force rebuild, Implies 'pkgmk -f'; same as --margs=-f
<MeCrumbly429>
So, prt-get -fr?
<ocb>
actually more like 'prt-get sysup -fr' i think
<MeCrumbly429>
Oh. Sorry about that
<ocb>
but you might want to run it with --test
<MeCrumbly429>
Thank you! (I'll try once I get my bootloader installed
<ocb>
however it is possible -fr doesn't work with sysup and it works for 'prt-get update ...' but just do a for each
<ocb>
sure :)
<MeCrumbly429>
Thanks
<MeCrumbly429>
Hate to ask so many questions, but what are your opinions on Gentoo?
<ocb>
i haven't spent more than 15 days on gentoo so my opinion is not worth.
<MeCrumbly429>
In my opinion, It's *mostly* fine, but portage is too big and slow for its own good. Also, global USE flags are just dumb
<ocb>
leaving, going to get some groceries from the market :)
<ocb>
village market, home grown food :)
<ocb>
have fun with crux
<MeCrumbly429>
Thanks!
<MeCrumbly429>
Gotta go for a minute
<MeCrumbly429>
Gotta witness my PC go to WWII with itself
<XXX1232>
you can update manually, but it will take longer than reinstalling
<XXX1232>
я себя имел ввиду) конечно
<XXX1232>
вообщем суть в том что гладко prt-get sysup не проходит а crux я использую с 3.4 версии
<ppetrov^>
Вы попробавали pkgmk -d libwebp? И посмотрить какие ошыбки здесь есть?
<XXX1232>
ppetrov^: там много ошибок я в google не смог найти решения - я очень много времени потратил на "обновление" :)
<XXX1232>
в других пакетах эти ошибки были связанны с багами в новых версиях например
<XXX1232>
процес обновления вообщем очень увлекательный и интересный - но мне поднадоело просто:)
<XXX1232>
ppetrov^: может гдето новости есть про запланированный релиз?
<ppetrov^>
ошыбка -> ошибка, извините... :P
<XXX1232>
у меня тоже много ошибок:))
<ppetrov^>
багами? bugs?
<XXX1232>
да
<ppetrov^>
hmm... ну я не знаю. У меня были проблемы с freetype и *.la фалы
<ppetrov^>
файл -> файлы? да?
<XXX1232>
yes:)
<XXX1232>
I have the same problem with freetype
<XXX1232>
did you manage to solve?
<ppetrov^>
I recompiled using the old build system, which builds la files
<ppetrov^>
there were instructions about dealing with the la files problem, but I was not able to solve mine with it
<ppetrov^>
then I locked freetype, as i do not intend to deal with such crap for the near future
<XXX1232>
for me it's difficult in general)
<ppetrov^>
did you try with a fresh, updated install cd?
<XXX1232>
у меня поздно я пошел спать :) у меня знаний не хватает в ручную обновится
<XXX1232>
буду через cd обновлятся.
<XXX1232>

<XXX1232>
I’m late, I went to bed :) I don’t have enough knowledge to manually update
<XXX1232>
I will be updated via cd.
<ppetrov^>
exactly
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<SiFuh>
Heh
<SiFuh>
XXX1232 no update date mentioned yet
<SiFuh>
Also, looks like revdep needs to be run.
<SiFuh>
To check which deps need to be rebuilt
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<farkuhar>
stenur: very clever use of sed to generate a yt-dlp manpage from its readme markdown. Thanks to you and ocb for the port!
<ocb>
farkuhar: i saw the port in contrib which is much better and not made by me but steffen
<ocb>
mine is lame, simple build with python. i only made it since there wasn't yt-dlp port at that time. but steffen did a better job. yes i like the sed too :)
<ocb>
my ports look awful :D
<farkuhar>
ocb: it looks like steffen followed your example of invoking setup.py directly, and then just added the manpage. Eventually the python ecosystem will stop supporting direct invocations of setup.py, but for now it seems to work fine.
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<stenur>
I simply took Pkgfile from Romster's youtube-dl. I really would like to see Romster taking this in favour of his youtube-dl, which is discontinued.
<stenur>
First a fun commit to give it to beerman though.
<stenur>
The manual, yes, sorry. Did that already for ipcalc, that man converted a valid manual to the same as .MD, no other changes around that. Grazy.
<stenur>
But that yt-dlp is really bitter: zcat /usr/share/man/man1/yt-dlp.1.gz |wc -l -> 1537
<stenur>
I know of no wide screen which excuses _that_.
<stenur>
Eh, sorry, wc -L -> 917
<stenur>
-L, of course.
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<stenur>
Yeah i mean, sorry. He wants pandoc to create the manual from this .MD ... and i now see we indeed have a pandoc that uses a binary download package, ie, no Haskell infrastructure needed.
<stenur>
You know, i _totally_ hate this new shit, not even manual pages are delivered. Just make it a build time dependency.
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<stenur>
On the other hand yt-dlp release tarball includes for example 120 K .github directory, i have a hard time with this.
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<stenur>
But i adore jue for providing compressed manual alongside qemu-all. On the other hand 300 K manual ball simply included in a ports directory, also quite bitter.
<farkuhar>
I wonder why the URL https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/releases/latest/download/yt-dlp.tar.gz includes the result of a pandoc .MD -> manpage conversion, but the tagged release (2021.12.01) does not. In any event, the automatic conversion retains too many irrelevant sections for my taste, and I prefer the slimmer manpage created by Steffen's sed command.
<stenur>
Really? Oh!! Well i have no idea of github, i only came back to it just recently, finally, because i promised the OpenSSL people that whenever i find the next bug, i open a report instead of posting and then Matt Caswell does do it very noisy via the ML, for me. So i did.
<stenur>
What i mean is, i am sure one can become notified about releases etc., but i have no idea. And i do not like Github.
<stenur>
That URL i took from ArchLinux iirc
<stenur>
But that of course does all the build thing
<stenur>
yeah arch
<stenur>
HAHA! That was a funny joke!
<stenur>
Oh no, i will _not_ install pandoc to convert a .MD file to a manual page. The sheer beauty of the conversion "takes my breath away", "cannot beat the real thing", "i like ice in the sunshine", "looking for the summer", "you just won't have any fun until you drink a grazy amount of Bacardi Rum", and that is enough of 80s music
<stenur>
People are People.
<stenur>
Club Tropicana.
<stenur>
(Drinks for free.)
<stenur>
Careless whisper.
<stenur>
Oh! To be. Ah.
<stenur>
I saw the future, it is murder.
<stenur>
Love is a Battlefield.
<stenur>
It ain't necessarily so. (He just has died)
<stenur>
And for all the Americans, and SiFuh, the beer lover. Bob and Doug sing 12 Days of Christmas. (They did not, i'm afraid.)
<stenur>
(But heh, i do not really wish them that. Just sayin')
<frinnst>
holy monologue, batman!
<joacim>
youtube-dl doesnt look deprecated to me. still activity on their github
<pedja>
wasn't there a release of it week-ish ago?