jaeger changed the topic of #crux to: CRUX 3.6 | Homepage: https://crux.nu/ | Ports: https://crux.nu/portdb/ https://crux.ninja/portdb/ | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/crux/
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<SiFuh> ocb: no worries
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<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.6]: nodejs: 16.9.0 -> 16.9.1
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<victor> oh. I joined #xtdb expecting it to already exist, instead I'm OP there now. If ops from here send a msg, I can OP you over there too
<leah2> victor: wrong crux
<victor> lol, think this is the second time I make the same mistake... Sorry
<leah2> but maybe part of the reason xtdb renamed ;)
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<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: acorn: 8.4.1 -> 8.5.0
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: python3-ruamel-yaml: 0.17.15 -> 0.17.16
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: typescript: 4.4.2 -> 4.4.3
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: libsrtp: fixed signature
<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.6]: btrfs-progs: 5.13.1 -> 5.14
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<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.6]: ccache: 4.4 -> 4.4.1
<stenur> Somehow firefox-bin 92.0.0 still thinks it is 91.0.2. How do your instances feel?
<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.6]: libxkbcommon: 1.3.0 -> 1.3.1
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: mjpegtools: 2.2.0 -> 2.2.1
<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.6]: pango: 1.48.9 -> 1.48.10
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<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: imagemagick-compat: 6.9.12-20 -> 6.9.12-21
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: legendary: 0.20.6 -> 0.20.10
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: libplacebo: 4.157.0-rc1 -> 4.157.0
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: libsigc++2: 2.10.6 -> 2.10.7
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: python-attrs: 20.1.0 -> 20.2.0
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: python3-beautifulsoup4: 4.9.3 -> 4.10.0
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: python-cffi: 1.14.2 -> 1.14.6
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: python-cython: 0.29.22 -> 0.29.24
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: python3-idna: 2.10 -> 3.2
<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.6]: python-six: 1.15.0 -> 1.16.0
<cruxbot> [core.git/3.6]: bison: 3.7.6 -> 3.8.1
<cruxbot> [core.git/3.6]: iana-etc: 20210407 -> 20210818
<stenur> An old program source may need elder headers, libraries, compilers, assemblers in order to be compiled
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: python3-keyring: 23.1.0 -> 23.2.0
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: basu: initial commit, version 0.2.0
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: seatd: 0.5.0 -> 0.6.0
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: p5-scalar-list-utils: 1.56 -> 1.57
<pedja> how old are we talking?
<pedja> centos7 or slackware-1.0?
<stenur> Hey pedja. Wrong channel, sorry, me and IRC. That is FreeBSD, like 7 some say, but back to 4 is possible.
<stenur> Like "run, as an example, binaries built on FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE, on a much newer RELEASE"
<pedja> that's an interesting exercise
<stenur> Ie it is about the binary compatibility layers of FreeBSD.
<pedja> what's the state of their Linux-compat layer these days?
<stenur> Oh. I did run a program compiled statically on Linux around say maybe 2001 until about 2018 (but daily until 2009) via those binary compatibility layers.
<stenur> That i do not know. They now have a Linuxulator or how it is called..
<stenur> Yeah that is its name. "We currently claim compatibility with Linux 3.2.0 in 12-STABLE and 4.4.0 in 14-CURRENT. "
<stenur> I do not really run FreeBSD no more but in virtual machines under Linux. Linux is now doing all the work.
<pedja> importing drm graphics stack from Linux, iirc, was some dark magic hackery :)
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<stenur> Am on my way to listen to all lounges and chills from 15-20 years ago again, tracked in a file -rw-r----- 1 steffen steffen 3325 Aug 27 17:22 /home/steffen/src/.PEDJA
<pedja> I think fbsd-11 was the last I made VM out of
<stenur> Already listened/worked a lot, and that "Balkan Pissbox!" will not escape me.
<stenur> 12.2 is max at the moment.
<pedja> these days, I have 5+ Leap/TW VM's for experiments :)
<pedja> selinux and stuff like that
<stenur> Sounds SuSE thing. Uh, selinux.
<pedja> not (open)SUSE thing officially yet, apparmor is the default/used atm
<stenur> I only use VMs for OS testing. Aka program portability. Otherwise i slowly hack more boxing scripts with unshare(1) / overlayfs etc.
<pedja> so reinventing containers :)?
<stenur> Yes, stupidly work intensive ones.
<pedja> you might like podman/buildah/skopeo
<pedja> (run/build/inspect) containers tools
<stenur> nonono. I like it that way. It is really easy, and i can adjust a template. I do not need that. The irssi proxy master on the VM sits in such a box and the bytes you will see soon passed through it. :)
<pedja> ah, nice
<stenur> Yeah. status is actually via pid file, i have integrated that in my net-qos.sh script which does firewall and daemon stuff, and it uses start-stop-daemon to startup the "container", so we do have a PID to track.
<pedja> interesting. podman has something similar, it can create service file for container, so systemd can control it
<stenur> oh no please no systemd. I am thinking about writing a reaper module that uses prctl(2) PR_SET_CHILD_SUBREAPER, like that we could start all the stuff and should become informed whenever a child dies.
<stenur> I think that is one of the things that systemd uses, and i _always_ get angry when i see that all the other software login etc whatever do not make use of it. This (and in my case: only this) is what makes systemd fly.
<stenur> Imho.
<stenur> Ok for an admin such one-service-file-syntax with all the plenty of possibilities is surely gigantic.
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<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: seatd: service file now uses start-stop-daemon
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