jaeger changed the topic of #crux to: CRUX 3.6 | Homepage: https://crux.nu/ | Ports: https://crux.nu/portdb/ https://crux.ninja/portdb/ | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/crux/
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<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.6]: thunderbird-bin: adopted, updated to version 91.1.0
<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.6]: Revert "thunderbird-bin: deleted unmaintained port"
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<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: gtkmm4: 4.2.0 -> 4.4.0
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: gitui: 0.17 -> 0.17.1
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<ocb> how are you today
<ocb> i remember some recent talk about sudo-less crux
<ocb> however no logs
<ocb> so far so good
<SiFuh> doas
<SiFuh> Well actually it was doas but was replaced with opendoas
<SiFuh> If that is what you are talking about?
<ocb> so far the system works ok with removed sudo package, haven't encountered issues
<ocb> thanks, i completely forgot about doas
<ocb> i'll look into it
<SiFuh> Yeah we went from sudo to doas because of the insecurities, then realized doas also had insecurities and then chose opendoas
<SiFuh> I use opendoas on crux.
<ocb> interesting, i'll give it a read right now
<SiFuh> And if you don't want to force yourself to adapt to typing doas you can add an alias line
<ocb> i tend to adapt, so i know im using doas and not sudo just for future references
<SiFuh> alias sudo="doas " <- don't forget that a space after doas is important
<SiFuh> Yeah it took me two weeks to adapt to doas over sudo. But I guess that was partly because there was no sudo in OpenBSD
<ocb> playing with local system while waiting unixware machines to arrive. haven't played with anything more difficult, althought the install is from 1998 and is missing most of usual commands i'd use :) luckily managed to back them up before storage turned on leds on 3/15 disks
<ocb> appreciate for the space, i'll set it up and read man
<ocb> thanks :)
<SiFuh> Yeah it's not just with sudo though I have vi="vim " and emacs=emacs -nw "
<ocb> what is the reason for space?
<leah2> tab completion
<ocb> oh, learned something new
<SiFuh> alias to itself
<SiFuh> And anything you add after like a command or a flag
<ocb> thank you :)
<SiFuh> Yeah I can't find the log when I provided a link explaining it. I guess I will find another
<SiFuh> The first word of the replacement text is tested for aliases, but a word that is identical to an alias being expanded is not expanded a second time. This means that one may alias ls to "ls -F", for instance, and Bash does not try to recursively expand the replacement text. If the last character of the alias value is a blank, then the next command word following the alias is also checked for alias expansion.
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<ocb> SiFuh: thanks for the link. will read through it now. was playing with doas, made prt-get sysup work with it :)
<SiFuh> opendoas can be used as a 100% replacement for sudo
<stenur> it likely was on crux-devel
<SiFuh> stenur: Yeah I searched both
<SiFuh> On both machines also
<stenur> anyhow it works just fine
<SiFuh> It's probably moved into backup and I am not going through all the data to find it. :-)
<stenur> Wonderful. Webb telescope moving, and Italy wants to allow Mariuahana plants for private use (four plants). Btw beside lots of stuff, on the 12th Stanislaw Lem would celebrate his 100th birthday.
<ocb> we don't need their approval to grow our plants ;)
<stenur> hardest penalties all over europe though
<ocb> have some interesting genetics (orient express f1 x pakistan chitral kush) :)
<stenur> shit! looks tremendous!
<ocb> 2 weeks to harvest. :)) pollinated 2 branches with some male african landrace genetics from ace seeds
<ocb> waiting for seeds to be made, if you'll need some hit me up :)
<ocb> but i'd like to go through one grow with these and hopefully not to see hermies, then it will be time for give-away
<SiFuh> I use to do that illegally and then I grew up :-) Hahaha
<ocb> :))))) means i'm not grown up. i'm ok with that :)
<stenur> Thanks for the offer. We always went to the Netherlands and went into the coffee shops.
<ocb> for seeds or just the merchandise?
<SiFuh> ocb: It's a joke :-P But to be honest, I kind of evolved away from it.
<stenur> No, we took what the State of the Netherlands offered us :-)
<stenur> Their plants are super-potent today i have heard. By then, hm, my beloved Acapulco Gold was also very nice.
<ocb> somehow i don't like their mainstream NL quality, works weird.. :/
<stenur> Well no space here. We tried to plant in a hidden place in the forest uh 29 years ago ;), but .. did not work out.
<ocb> that was long long ago
<stenur> A friend of mine did in his garden, which was pretty good.
<stenur> Yes. Yes. Still hanging on for my one, to go the John+Oko double fantasy "Starting over" way. Hopefully.
<ocb> outdoors can be tricky, respect to outdoors :)
<stenur> German outdoors even.
<ocb> i was not aware who is John Oko
<ocb> lately i'm more for picking wild mushrooms, what the nature can give us, and teach us :)
<stenur> Japanese female Dolphin and some left-wing Briton berk, heh.
<stenur> Psilos you could find in German forests at some specific places i used to know.
<stenur> Interestingly i never took one. Nor the mexican cacti, which i heard should be tremendous. 'Should have a spiritual leader for that ;)
<Mellowlink> hello i'd like to ask if crux is suitable for newer hw 2021 hw? I mean which kernel version does it use now? I'm currently running void and i had to use the nightly build to get the livecd to boot in the fist place.
<ocb> oh, yeah.. better be careful wth those :)
<stenur> Mellowlink: maybe updated ISO from https://crux.ninja/updated-iso/crux-3.6-updated.iso
<stenur> Just five days old, but dunny what 5.10.* kernel it now has.
<ocb> Mellowlink: i do not have a great understanding but crux does seem to be suitable for newer hardware. iso 3.6.1 comes with 5.4.80 kernel iirc.
<stenur> Ah -- 5.4 it was.
<stenur> hmmm ... the system-iso repository already uses 5.10: 743c519724 Updated kernel version to 5.10.32, removed xxhash and zstd_decompress from initramfs
<stenur> Had to ask @jaeger: what his updated ISO has
<stenur> Has been a while, i run 5.10.62.
<Mellowlink> i mean for B550 motherboard, RTL8125 network card and Ryzen 7 5700G. Stable void iso does not even boot because of iommu problem. freebsd does not support the network card.
<Mellowlink> thats why i'm asking
<stenur> turn off iommu via kernel command line?
<stenur> iommu=off?
<SiFuh> Mine is a Ryzen 7 4800H and iommu is disable '"AMD 17h/6xh IOMMU" rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 not configured' but I am using OpenBSD on it
<SiFuh> Probably amd_iommu=off
<SiFuh> For lInux
<stenur> ciao people.
<SiFuh> On CRUX I have intel_iommu=igfx_off
<SiFuh> But that is for the intel machine
<SiFuh> see ya stenur
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<cruxbot> [compat-32.git/3.6]: libsamplerate-32: 0.2.1 -> 0.2.2
<cruxbot> [compat-32.git/3.6]: pipewire-32: 0.3.34 -> 0.3.35
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<cruxbot> [core.git/3.6]: libcap: 2.56 -> 2.57
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: jansson: 2.13.1 -> 2.14
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: libnm: dropped port
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: notmuch: 0.33 -> 0.33.1
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: python3-unidecode: 1.3.0 -> 1.3.1
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: steam: 1.0.0.71 -> 1.0.0.72
<cruxbot> [compat-32.git/3.6]: libcap-32: 2.56 -> 2.57
<cruxbot> [compat-32.git/3.6]: [notify] libnm-32: 1.18.10 -> 1.32.10; dropped dependency: libnm; new dependency: networkmanager, libpsl-32
<cruxbot> [compat-32.git/3.6]: jansson-32: 2.13.1 -> 2.14
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<ocb> SiFuh: thanks for the recommendation, i like doas.conf synthax
<ocb> syntax *
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: libreoffice: 7.2.0.4 -> 7.2.1.2
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