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<yitzi>
NotThatRPG: SBCL dispatches to simple-streams, its own ansi-stream implementation or gray streams based on the stream type. The ansi streams don't really need gray stream support then. You just call the cl:write, etc.
<yitzi>
What is it that you are trying to accomplish?
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<NotThatRPG>
yitzi -- what about the FD streams? Seems like the gray stream interface is not implemented on them. Or I'm missing something (quite possible!)
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<dnhester26>
I remember reading somewhere that it's better to use something else instead of :initform for default values when defining class slots, does anyone know what it is?
<beach>
Probably :DEFAULT-INITARGS.
<dnhester26>
beach: thanks, just found this in the MOP dictionary you gave me: default-initarg-initial-value-form. Which one should I use?
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<dnhester26>
Oh i see, there are a bunch. default-initargs is probably the best. What was the reason?
<beach>
Whichever suits the semantics you want.
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<beach>
I don't see one as better than the other.
<dnhester26>
Ok. Thanks. I will read about it when I get there in Keene I guess
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<beach>
dnhester26: If a slot has a reasonable default value that is true for all subclasses, you might as well use :INITFORM, but if not, you might use just :INITARG and supply a default initarg in a subclass.
<beach>
For instance, say you have a class POLYGON with a slot NUMBER-OF-SIDES. That slot does not have a reasonable default value for all subclasses, so in the subclass RECTANGLE, you might want to supply the default initarg 4.
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<beach>
On the other hand, if you have a class PERSON with a slot CHILDREN, a reasonable default value for CHILDREN when you create a person (presumably because the person was just born), is the empty list.