03:03 <SymbioticFemale> whats the current lightest-weight official *nix image that can go on a beagle bone black? openbsd seems straightforward but lacks USB support. alpine is more complicated than i'd like in terms of building/installing on eMMC

03:06 <SymbioticFemale> basically my requirements are: ethernet, emmc, official image, package manager

03:41 <set_> bullseye

03:42 <set_> There is a forum.beagleboard.org and if you search their website, there are images under the search bullseye

03:43 <set_> I will go and find the link.

03:44 <set_> if you scroll down, minimal is what is the smallest version for the BBB: https://forum.beagleboard.org/t/debian-11-x-bullseye-monthly-snapshots/31280

03:45 <set_> That is official (I think).

03:46 <set_> It has apt, it is official (I think), you can always use the command to flash to the eMMC, and it has Ethernet available even w/ the minimal image.

03:49 <set_> I think the command is enable-beagle-flasher if my memory serves me correct. You might need to use sudo but I am not sure of it. I usually just try SD Cards for now.

04:00 <set_> 10:00

04:18 <SymbioticFemale> i tried the official images from openbsd and alpine, and they just went in boot loops

04:18 <SymbioticFemale> will try your linked image

04:21 <SymbioticFemale> these unofficial images have kernels not built by debian

04:21 <SymbioticFemale> are there any distros that are officially compiled by the project and also work?

04:23 <set_> Oh.

04:23 <set_> Debian I think is the only "official" builds so far or now.

04:24 <SymbioticFemale> i mean i want an image that is not built by beaglebord.org

04:24 <set_> I think the am335x on the BBB and Debian have become good buds. So, since it just works, it is nice to use.

04:24 <set_> Oh!

04:24 <set_> Sorry.

04:24 <set_> I misunderstood.

04:25 <set_> No official images from me, so far. I think debian and there may be a few people requesting ubuntu. But, as for not beagleboard.org, sorry. I know nothing for now about the images available for the am335x.

04:26 <SymbioticFemale> alright

04:26 <set_> I completely misunderstood what you were requesting. I am sorry.

04:26 <set_> Please wait around. I am sure someone built something.

04:41 <SymbioticFemale> for reference: have not tested the beagleboard.org image, will test. this is the error i get on debian, official debian.org image. similar error on alpine linux and it boot loops at the same time on openbsd so probably same thing. https://paste.debian.net/plainh/487494ae

04:47 <set_> Hello Again...I was building images and failed many times. I have learned some but not enough, i.e. hence the reason I passed this on to the next person and/or people but!

04:48 <set_> Are you building w/ ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf- ?

04:49 <set_> I ask b/c I see in the building, there is a line that shows the efi. Is that a line for uefi?

04:50 <set_> arch?

04:54 <set_> Or are you trying w/ GRUB?

04:55 <SymbioticFemale> i'm not building. these are the official images from the debian project, the openbsd project, and alphine linux project. this is how it errors out and bootloops on openbsd https://paste.debian.net/plainh/ca03b540

04:56 <set_> Oh.

04:56 <set_> Okay, I think Buster and onwards, Arm64 is needed to handle efi.

04:58 <set_> If trying beforehand w/ something like an older release, 32-bit works w/ efi but you still need a bootloader.

05:00 <set_> All Debian is willing to release are these statements: https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#Force_grub-efi_installation_to_the_removable_media_path

05:00 <set_> That used to work. I do not think it works any longer.

05:03 <set_> First, we need to know what UEFI spec. we are working on.

05:03 <set_> Then, moving forward is easier.

05:11 <set_> I think this is where people make a mistake. They build and then the notes get trashed. There is a uefi spec. online w/ tons of tools. I think this tool(s) section(s) could show what to do. bootp is a way to understand if one can make it that far. I think u-boot uses it so the boards w/ the am335x can boot, i.e. amongst the many.

05:14 <set_> I know answers are better than work. Okay. I do not have a straight answer for this question. I will go and look again.

05:16 <set_> Try mmcblk0 or mmcblk0p1 or whatever they use now?

05:17 <set_> I saw in the beginning of your paste that you are using a removable drive.

05:18 <set_> Try to use a installed drive... Then you can add it to any removable drive... like w/ dd or whatever tool.

05:18 <SymbioticFemale> i resolved it

05:18 <set_> What?

05:18 <set_> Nice.

05:18 <SymbioticFemale> i updated uboot using the image you linked to and now openbsd works

05:19 <SymbioticFemale> didn't try alpine yet

05:19 <set_> Awesome!

05:19 <SymbioticFemale> thanks for your help

05:19 <set_> Off to Georgia!

05:19 <set_> You are welcome.

05:46 <set_> I am back from Georgia! What happened?

06:51 <SymbioticFemale> at grub, appending the following to the linux/kernel line doesn't have any function. what's going on? console=ttyS0,115200n8

10:12 <set_> I cannot get the darn BBBlue to fly. Why in the world would I put such a marvelous piece of machinery to flight. B/C!

10:13 <set_> So close yet so far. I know it is breathing under my desk. I know it. It is just waiting to come about for glory. BBBlue!

10:15 <set_> One day, the receiver powers via GPIO and then on another day...

10:15 <set_> The header does nothing b/c of a specific image.

10:15 <set_> Wait. What? Oh well. I will calm down now. Too early and too much infographical info.

10:20 <set_> The instructions are plain and simple. I will give it to the creators of such an idea. Then, there are 5000+ pages on ArduPilot ideas.

10:20 <set_> If before this then that. If after this then this.

10:20 <set_> Aw.

10:20 <set_> Sorry. Too early.

10:25 <set_> Aw. reading! Off to learn sa' mo'.

10:58 <set_> So, I think i figured it out but too late.

10:59 <set_> The ArduPilot source needs to be using Linux and the BBBlue as a chat medium to handle the source.

11:00 <set_> So, what I always knew was right, no matter how terrible I am at admitting it, is correct. It basically shoves the data to/from the RX/TX via the BBBlue and Linux but via radio button as a calibration. Blah. I am probably wrong.

11:01 <set_> Anyway...

11:01 <set_> I need to figure out some more!

11:15 <set_> Okay...does a gpio onboard the am335x and BBBlue power the Servo Headers still?

11:30 <set_> Or...would I need to do other stuff?

12:27 <set_> Building w/out a background is not easy. Things are missing and misplaced. Blah.

12:27 <set_> Off to the worksite!

13:18 <zmatt> set_: you can get anything to fly if you have enough thrust.... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=christmas+tree+rocket

21:48 <set_> Yea. A understanding, young gent could. Me, blah.

21:48 <set_> I could not fly a rocket to my toes. It seems.

21:49 <set_> Just think of this idea.

21:49 <set_> me, flying BBBlues and Louisiana! What could go wrong?

21:49 <set_> All jokes aside, off to view the youtube.

21:50 <set_> I am very scared of labels and stereotypes.

21:51 <set_> Is it really a Christmas Tree Rocket or a Holiday Boom-Yaka?

21:54 <set_> anyway...bbl. This guy said and I quote, "Rake my yard." I am a full fledged idiot. Laugh all you want, my BBBlue and flying deserves me.