03:19 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <catalin.adler.02> question is what are they going to do to compete with rpi which has proper kernel support and as of rpi5, good cpus.

06:54 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Rpi 5 has a not bad cpu, but the soc is no good in 2023. It only supports HEVC decoding. While rk3588 is the soc that brings av1 decoding support to mainline Linux. And rk3588 is the first soc that brings arm mali csf gpu driver to mainline. Rpi really sucks.

07:05 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <tosty1010> i want orange pi 5 plus armbian serever

07:05 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <tosty1010> i want orange pi 5 plus armbian server

09:43 <tkaiser> @amazingfate: The BCM2712 on RPi 5 is just BroadCom's most recent Set-Top Box SoC. The platform is called Muskoka and out in the wild as long as RK3588 (Dec 2021)

09:43 <tkaiser> See at the bottom of https://github.com/ThomasKaiser/sbc-bench/blob/master/results/Broadcom-VideoCore-SoCs.md#muskoka

09:44 <tkaiser> STB SoCs only need HW acceleration for codecs used by the TV network provider

09:51 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <catalin.adler.02> yeah, but i judge the trend. rpi5 took cpu seriously. for a lot of use cases the higher cpu perf and io extensions are reason enough

10:04 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Offloading cpu usage by many external ip cores is one of the biggest advantages of arm socs. Cpu can do many jobs, but that's not power efficient.

10:06 <tkaiser> 'rpi5 took cpu seriously'? Seriously? As long as Raspberry Pi Ltd. is riding the dead VideoCore horse they simply have to take whatever BroadCom offers.

10:07 <tkaiser> And it took a while to be able to use newer BroadCom SoCs since they had to bring their RP1 'south bridge' in shape since almost all the legacy interfaces of the original VideoCore SoC are gone on modern VC implementations.

13:20 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <bubbajaysmith> I think they went the wrong way with it. Too much power required and heat, but not enough performance to justify it. Seems they are abandoning the low power crowd. Some interesting directions in moving away from vendor dependence. On the other hand, so far, I don't think anyone else is quite as stable on the software side. That looks to be changing.

13:30 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> Built a desktop image for the Station P1 (the Firefly ROC RK3399 PC PLUS with a metal case) with `rockchip64` family instead of `media`. Builds, boots with 6.6.7, desktop works, install to emmc works, Wifi does not. Not sure if it is worth a PR...

13:33 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> Mind taking the Broadcom/RPI talk to #ID:964943707793150052 ?

13:33 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <tenkawa42> Mind taking the Broadcom/RPI talk to #ID:964943707793150052 ? Thanks