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<terrorpup> 256 MB, you could run a dns server or something simple, but not IoT
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<nicod_sbc> Boy, they send me something to review and it's only got 256MB. What do I have to do with this?
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<nicod_sbc> It is kinda dumb. But I'll find something... I hope.
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<terrorpup> They keep sending R Seriers board, I don't need routers
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<terrorpup> Good Luck
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<nicod_sbc> Thanks. I expected at least 512MB π Can't even run my benchmarks.
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<terrorpup> Ouch
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<nicod_sbc> And... They are using this stupid patition this where filesystem only has 3.2GB and a userdata partition. Why do people do that? I'm now even unable to install any software. So many vendor software come like this these days. It's stupid.
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<terrorpup> Sound like android
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<nicod_sbc> Indeed. It is the Android partitioning way.
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<terrorpup> But remember Banana-Pi loves to their 8 Gig emmc for some strange reason
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<terrorpup> OMG, that's an Android file system
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<nicod_sbc> Everything vendor that's Rockchip comes like that these days. I don't get it.
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<nicod_sbc> I know there's a way to use it, you got to give the user rights for it and so. But it's stupid.
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<terrorpup> I need to learn the Ambrian Build, for now let me get in mine up
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<nicod_sbc> Armbian build is very simple. At least it can be simple.
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<terrorpup> hmmm, if there was only a video that explains how too, LOL
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<terrorpup> Oh, wait there is
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<nicod_sbc> I made tons of them.
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<terrorpup> I know that why I was laughing
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<terrorpup> my text doesn't come across funny
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<tenkawa42> videos... the one thing you won't see me do... Ironic considering how much live instruction I do here where I live.
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<tenkawa42> I am just not good in front of a camera (imo)
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<nicod_sbc> I fell into it. Never thought I'd be doing that.
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<tenkawa42> Ironic even considering I have been a DJ so being in front of an audience isn't even a problem either.
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<nicod_sbc> I'm no good in front of camera either. I stutter like crazy and constantly repeat my sentences until they come out a bit ok. And that's all cut out.
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<terrorpup> I needed to do it, it's a release
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<terrorpup> plus I am learning a lot too
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<terrorpup> oh, if ppl like this can make video
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<terrorpup> This comes after udev/journctl starting
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<tenkawa42> thats not systemd eother
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<tenkawa42> thats dbus
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<terrorpup> Well, I have read at systemd because of the --address
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<filoozom> I've flashed the image to an SD and then installed it at least 10 different times
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<filoozom> I've flashed the image to an SD and then installed it at least 10 different times at this point
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<filoozom> Tried collabra, edge, minimal, standard
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<terrorpup> can you boot with SD?
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<filoozom> With SD it boots fine
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<filoozom> (Well, the one I didn't brick)
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<terrorpup> Ok, install gpart and wipe your emmc and try again
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<terrorpup> Ok, install gparted and wipe your emmc and try again
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<tenkawa42> Yeah thats a good idea.. he might just have a uboot corrupted
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<filoozom> Doesn't `armbian-install` fix the uboot?
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<tenkawa42> (in the hidden areas)
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<tenkawa42> not always
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<terrorpup> I had to do that a few on a couple Banana-Pi
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<tenkawa42> a dd wipe is cleaner
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<filoozom> Sure, I can do that
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<tenkawa42> or gparted
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<filoozom> Although I'm pretty sure I've tried that before as well
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<terrorpup> gparted is easier if you don't know how to do a dd
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<tenkawa42> indeed
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<filoozom> No I'm normally a pretty advanced linux user, I just forget all the uboot / ARM stuff all the time because I don't use it that often
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<filoozom> Also generally prefer Alpine. Got it running on RK3399 but can't seem to on RK3588 yet π
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<filoozom> And don't want to spend weeks on it again haha
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<tenkawa42> @terrorpup too bad these wont work to a strong magnet lol
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<terrorpup> Man, the Magnet Gun we has the station was great for clean stuff, I wipe out a few games by mistake because I was too close when I use to zapped a bunch audio tapes for making new production
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<filoozom> And what do you need to do after that?
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<filoozom> Do you even need uboot on eMMC + SPI?
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<tenkawa42> oops
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<nicod_sbc> You need RKDevTool to write spi and image after un-bricking it.
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<filoozom> Ah, that's kind of what I figured but didn't have any luck. Is it in "Upgrade Firmware" and then select the u-boot image?
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<tenkawa42> @terrorpup you were right about systemd proc 1 .. unfortunately me discovering this uncovered something I didn't like finding in the way it presents the process to the os.. its a symlink... thats kind of dangerous
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<tenkawa42> if I break the /sbin/init link at any point on the other end I'm toast
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<tenkawa42> What I can't figure out is why Rockchip/et others don't try to move it forward more than past 5.10.160... that's starting to age quickly
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<rpardini> No idea, but my guess is .161 has a huge conflict with their stuff, so they just gave up
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<tenkawa42> Probably
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<efectn> Do you have kernel packages
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<rpardini> Yep, in my testing repo, for debs:
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<efectn> The dormitory i stay has really bad internet π Chrome tells me it will take 1-2 hours to download the kernel package
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<rpardini> Yeah I've a gigabit link, although repo is served by a rk3568.
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<terrorpup> @tenkawa42 I've been doing Linux for 24 years now, I started in 97 with slackware, I had to learn about Systemd as RH/SUSE use it, I also had to get up to spead on journctl, I am really hoping that what I read that systemd isn't gonna take over /home
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<terrorpup> there's been talk for a few years
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<Tonymac32> The NanoPC-T6 images are WIP, I haven't read back through the whole history but which kernel are you trying to use?
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<filoozom> Tried 6.6.0 collabora and edge
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<filoozom> Tried 6.6.0 collabora and edge. Didn't bother with current.
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<Tonymac32> Ok yeah, anything mainline or mainline-adjascent will be a no-go on eMMC for now, something buggy going on with the controller
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<Tonymac32> Might need slowed down
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<filoozom> Ah I see, sad π I'll keep it on the SD card then, but I'm assuming there's no easy way to run it in RAM?
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<filoozom> Ah or maybe place the root partition on eMMC and only boot from the SD?
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<filoozom> Or does the eMMC not work at all, in which case maybe on NVMe?
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<Tonymac32> Boot SD, root on NVMe should work
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<Tonymac32> I haven't tried SPI yet because of my lack of faith in Rockchip u-boot
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<filoozom> Yeah, there's always problems with Rockchip. But who else? π
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<tenkawa42> Oh god no.. if that happens help us all... btw I started with slackware too in 93... I still think systemd is an abomination
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<efectn> Hs200 works
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<efectn> There are some io errors with hs400
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<tenkawa42> don't touch that chip... it might be too warm.....
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<tenkawa42> that's pushing it fairly hard isn't it?
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<Tonymac32> Routing or phase tuning issues most likely
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<Tonymac32> Or maybe the clock subsystem is still a bit off
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<lanefu> You see that talk from SRE? Where short-term on mainline a bunch of things have to just be set in the on state full-time
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<kwiboo> Mainline possible use wrong/bad txtap value for hs400 timings, 0xA, compared to vendor kernel and what I used in mainline u-boot, 0x9
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<efectn> Cool will try to patch it tomorrow
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<kwiboo> that also include changes in strbin delay num and tapnum, used those values when I tested different emmc speeds for rk356x and rk3588 in mainline u-boot, should match latest vendor kernel
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<terrorpup> @nicod_sbc So, I got my board too, and it 256M as well
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<terrorpup> I can test the PoE, I have a dell switch that does PoE, other than that I need to think small
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<nicod_sbc> The CPU probably isn't that bad. Very power efficient it should be. So for anything battery powered, but with no memory not much can be run.
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<terrorpup> kinda wish puppylinux or damnsmalllinux were on Arm
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<terrorpup> No Camera IO, so you can't use for Video
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<terrorpup> I don't think USB would support one power wise
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<terrorpup> I need to figure out why wifi/bt are showing up
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<terrorpup> hmmm, anyone seen this with other rockchips?
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<tenkawa42> that is definitely a 256mb chip no matter what all the docs/wiki's say
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<terrorpup> ok, I am still reading dmesg, trying to see what else is there, @nicod_sbc was right, the filesystem does look like android, why?! Oh, my God, who in the Hell uses ext2 any more
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<terrorpup> [ 5.392218] ext2 filesystem being mounted at /oem supports timestamps until 2038 (0x7fffffff)
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<terrorpup> [ 5.660654] ext2 filesystem being mounted at /userdata supports timestamps until 2038 (0x7fffffff)
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<tenkawa42> yeah... omg
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<terrorpup> So this make a bit of sense to me now
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<terrorpup> [ 54.497914] systemd-journald[156]: File /var/log/journal/37aff920c2f7fa58f6fb2a6164af6753/user-1000.journal corrupted or uncleanly shut down, renaming and replacing.
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<terrorpup> [ 54.548611] systemd-journald[156]: Failed to set ACL on /var/log/journal/37aff920c2f7fa58f6fb2a6164af6753/user-1000.journal, ignoring: Oper
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<terrorpup> Are ACL in like ext3/4
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<terrorpup> ext4 should be base
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<tenkawa42> you can always tune2fs remove acl on the fs too
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<terrorpup> The other think I need to learn how to do change the base os from Chinese to English
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<tenkawa42> dpkg-reconfigure locales
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<terrorpup> thanks, I gotten lazy with armbian-config
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<terrorpup> linaro@bpi-p2-pro:/etc$ sudo su -
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<terrorpup> sudo: unable to resolve host bpi-p2-pro.softmeta.com: Temporary failure in name resolution
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<terrorpup> -bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (zh_CN.UTF-8): No such file or directory
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<terrorpup> LOL, so if it what I think, it will keep overwriting until you stop the service
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<terrorpup> This reminds of a few back when I had to rev. engineer some FreeBSD boxes because no one had a clue what the system admin install and what was running on it
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<tenkawa42> @terrorpup is the resolv.conf file a link or by itself?
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<jkent.net> it might be a hardware bringup issue in the kernel
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<terrorpup> @tenkawa42 let me go look
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<tenkawa42> @jkent.net I checked the part # on the chip.. its a 256 mb chip
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<terrorpup> you are bring back nightmare from the late 90's when the kernel had to be compile to support a lot of memory, the weekends I lost compiling
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<terrorpup> You never compiled until you compile on 486 with 32MB of memory and staying up 72 hours making sure you kernel compile without an error
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<terrorpup> @tenkawa42 nope, update dns
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<jkent.net> @tenkawa42 4Gb is 512 MiB, not 256 MiB
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<tenkawa42> 4gb what?
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<jkent.net> thats 4Gb (gigabits)
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<tenkawa42> noone said anything about 4gb
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<jkent.net> ram is mesaured in bits not bytes
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<jkent.net> when dealing with chips
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<tenkawa42> Organization
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<tenkawa42> 256M x 16
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<tenkawa42> you are reading something completely different
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<tenkawa42> its 4gb dense
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<nicod_sbc> Is it ddr2?
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<tenkawa42> this can't even be the right chip
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<tenkawa42> contrary to what it says
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<jkent.net> it has a 16-bit wide bus
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<tenkawa42> I agree with jkent
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<jkent.net> its probably being initialized as a 8-bit wide device
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<jkent.net> causing the 256 MiB
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<tenkawa42> Reading the details there's no way this stamping is accurate
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<tenkawa42> I think they put the other model pic on the wiki
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<tenkawa42> (there's 3 models)
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<jkent.net> Ah.
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<tenkawa42> I found another one.. completely diff chip
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<tenkawa42> Can't read the part # though
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<tenkawa42> its too fuzzy
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<tenkawa42> bbl... gotta make dinner lol
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<tenkawa42> @terrorpup if you can get them on there get locales and locales-all then it should let you configure it
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<terrorpup> I am updating time, now
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<terrorpup> root@bpi-p2-pro:/etc# date
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<terrorpup> Thu Dec 22 12:47:34 UTC 2022
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<tenkawa42> back for a few
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<tenkawa42> dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
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<tenkawa42> (unless you really want utc heheheh)
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<terrorpup> Only at work, I was just going to point to my ntpd server
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<terrorpup> lucky it on there
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<terrorpup> ntp I mean
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<tenkawa42> you'll need to reconfigure tzdata though to make it show up in localtime
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<terrorpup> it only 9:04 UTC
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<nicod_sbc> I send a mail to my BPi contact for more info.
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<tenkawa42> yeah that sounds like ntp catchup π
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<tenkawa42> needed
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<tenkawa42> just use rdate
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<tenkawa42> if you need manual
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<tenkawa42> I like rdate -s time.mit.edu in the states personally
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<terrorpup> I am good now, I was about to see if I could get chronyd working
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<tenkawa42> Not sure about the rest of you in the Northern Hemisphere however it is way too warm for this time of year here.... very .. odd
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<terrorpup> sort of it not changing the locale
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<tenkawa42> in x or console?
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<tenkawa42> if in x you might be missing fonts too.. check you have these set in your env too (with appropriate language/charset for your region)
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<tenkawa42> LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8
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<tenkawa42> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
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<tenkawa42> LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
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<tenkawa42> LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
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<terrorpup> no console, keeps reverting to Chanese
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<terrorpup> I will figure it out
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<tenkawa42> ahhh you might need dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
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<tenkawa42> I formerly worked on mult-language support on Unix... but not on Linux in my business/working life... Linux support was never very good by the time I stopped working.