cr1901 changed the topic of ##yamahasynths to: Channel dedicated to questions and discussion of Yamaha FM Synthesizer internals and corresponding REing. Discussion of synthesis methods similar to the Yamaha line of chips, Sound Blasters + clones, PCM chips like RF5C68, and CD theory of operation are also on-topic. Channel logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/~h~yamahasynths
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<andlabs> https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/123419371 "analog computer security"
<NiGHTS> Vintage UNUSED Analog Computer Security System - shopgoodwill.com
<Foone> that's one way to call it
<andlabs> Foone: as;dfhg I just noticed "from flat to full"
<andlabs> it keeps getting better
<tpw_rules> maybe it's only for analog computers?
<andlabs> tpw_rules: gonna lock down my eniac
<tpw_rules> that was digital still
<tpw_rules> i mean like opamps
<andlabs> I htought eniac was 10-level analog?
<andlabs> eh
<cr1901> I think 10-level would still be digital, just not binary
<andlabs> okay I tweeted the other hting
<andlabs> hmmm
<andlabs> maybe my definition is wrong
<andlabs> and the only other analog computers I know of are kits like brainiac and geniac that are small enough that the joke doesn't work so eh
<tpw_rules> hm yeah wikipedia says it did decimal arithmetic
<tpw_rules> but it's unclear if it was a binary computer?
<tpw_rules> like some of the ibm mainframes did non-binary arithmetic but they were still only ever 0 or 1
<cr1901> There's also two representations of decimal floating point in use today; both use only 0s and 1s, and if you squint the repr looks like BCD in both
<andlabs> lol I was just going through the graphic sgremlin documentation to see how ej5 did the VGA port with FPGA
<andlabs> somehow went through the main README, the BOM, *and* the verilog section REAMDE before noticing the damn "yes it's a resistor ladder DAC" on the board
<andlabs> yes you answered my question right there thanks :V
<andlabs> impetus for this thought is tonight's dumb idea: a FPGA 3D accelerator card version of https://github.com/ssloy/tinyrenderer
<NiGHTS> GitHub - ssloy/tinyrenderer: A brief computer graphics / rendering course
<andlabs> can't be the first time I've wanted to make that here in this channel though
<ej5> haha
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<emilazy> "Connection closed unexpectedly: You are banned from this server- IRCCloud is no longer welcome on freenode (2021/6/13 12.46)" lmao
<emilazy> does anyone have background on this
<tpw_rules> i assume they are trying to "encourage" people over to their new built in bnc
<tpw_rules> and/or someone on irccloud said freenode is bad
<emilazy> they did make some tweets encouraging people to move network back when things were blowing up
<emilazy> 19:46:36 <@root> > if irccloud functioned like AndChat or any other client and didn't route all of your private communications through its MITM servers it would probably not have been banned
<emilazy> hahaha
<emilazy> one assumes it's only a matter of time for the matrix.org bridge then
<tpw_rules> how, pray tell, does the freenode bnc work then?
<alexisvl> my router is a MITM
<alexisvl> my NIC is a MITM
<alexisvl> my ethernet cable is a MITM
<alexisvl> everything is a MITM \o/
<qu1j0t3> :)
<alexisvl> this whole thing is so stupid lol
<emilazy> <tpw_rules "how, pray tell, does the freenod"> uh, it's run by freenode, so of course you can trust them
<emilazy> running their own BNC is a great excuse to start making the server software log everything :)
<emilazy> for additional popcorn material, apparently they're doing it server-by-server because they're too dumb to do a network-wide k-line
<emilazy> kind of incredible to see how bad the owner of irc.com is at basic irc network administration
<NiGHTS> Richard "RichiH" Hartmann sur Twitter : "I work with graphs and communities for a living. This is remarkable.… "
<emilazy> my current hypothesis is that andrew lee made someone a huge bet that he could kill freenode within 3 months
<emilazy> https://twitter.com/marklu/status/1403956182524387330 imagine saying "freenode is closer to efnet now imo" and being proud of it
<NiGHTS> marklu sur Twitter : "Looks like the new @freenodestaff management took over ##linux today and couldn't even bring themselves to transparently answer. Huge disappointment.… https://t.co/ddocXIGlFs"
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<andlabs> honestly to be fair
<andlabs> irccloud has always had a history of being bleugh
<andlabs> or wait, am I confusing it with kiwiirc
<andlabs> one of the two
<andlabs> also what is on IRCnet? I don't think I've ever needed to connect ot that network
<andlabs> and yet it's #2 (#3 now that libera is growing)
<Nerionaya> isn't IRCnet EFnet for europeans or something
<andlabs> lol
<andlabs> anyway you should tweet "imagine saying "freenode is closer to efnet now imo" and being proud of it" =P
<andlabs> there are two channels on there that I still *have to* use very rarely, and bizarrely one of them is the dragonflybsd channel
<andlabs> the only real explanation I can think of is "always has been there, so why leave" but
<andlabs> lol
<andlabs> the ircops took over the FSF channel, which is an *organization* cahnnel
<andlabs> impersonation time
<andlabs> (yes, even if fuck the FSF)
<andlabs> also in re the "just like efnet" line
<andlabs> that whole message on its own is something
<andlabs> I'm still not going to read lee's manifesto but I imagine that's what it boils down to, right?
<andlabs> oh right, IRCCloud was a paid subscription service, that's why I was uncomfortable with it
<andlabs> YEP I FOUND ONE https://twitter.com/sneakin/status/1403942406488309761 I LOOKED FOR ONE AND I FOUND ONE
<NiGHTS> Nolan 🚀👉❤ :/ ⛄! sur Twitter : "Still fills like an all sides attack on the FSF.… "
<andlabs> (RMS defenders do and still exist)
<andlabs> https://twitter.com/Devil_Bunny/status/1404139104426622977 oh god can you imagine (my response is the thing to imagine)
<NiGHTS> Yukaia sur Twitter : "I guess they're going the route of private torrent trackers, who's ready for their invite to freenode?… https://t.co/QsHvCZOPzJ"
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<andlabs> oh wait I assume emilazy is lambdakitten right
<emilazy> mhm
<emilazy> andlabs: you are probably confusing it with kiwiirc. the kiwiirc dude hooked up with andrew lee
<emilazy> although they have since parted ways aiui
<emilazy> (re irccloud)
<andlabs> lol
<emilazy> it being a paid subscription service is whatever, running a bunch of IRC clients is actually really expensive. (they have fancy DDoS protection etc.) of course, it would be nicer if the underlying infrastructure was free software
<andlabs> your pinned tweet is good (and the web of people my friends know continues to get increasingly tangled)
<andlabs> and yeah I'm just suspicious of "subscription services that wrap around free things" in general
<andlabs> my bad memory of kiwiirc was when they started out they didn't quite understand how IRC moderation worked so we had to block them entirely on another network to keep bad people out that figured out they could use it to attack networks, which made things harder for legitimate people that just wanted what apparently was a decent webirc
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Ultrasauce is now known as sauce
<KitsuWhooa> <andlabs> oh right, IRCCloud was a paid subscription service, that's why I was uncomfortable with it <-- I thought that meant they wouldn't be selling your data to stay afloat
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