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<ernstp> Can I make a variable "survive" reparsing? So I know that it's being reparsed?
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<RP> ernstp: only by writing something to disk and reading it back
<ernstp> RP: still struggling with an old idea I had that mostly works fine... but sometimes not :-)
<ernstp> RP: I want to run a query in the current bitbake invocation, and then don't rerun the query again.
<RP> ernstp: save to disk and always reload if present instead of querying?
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<ernstp> RP: but I don't know if it's the first invocation of the function in this bitbake session or if I'm being reparsed... ?
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<LetoThe2nd> ernstp: what is the actual use case? sounds like you're trying to cheat the reproducibility safeguards.
<bhstalel> Preserving packages database in rootfs requires always "package-management" feature ? what if installing only "dpkg" without IMAGE_FEATURES(package-management) as an example ?
<ernstp> LetoThe2nd: I want to query the current version of ITEM from a service and then use that during the build. But if the build takes a while the version might be updated during the build, and the "reparsing" can break that
<RP> ernstp: check DATETIME ?
<RP> ernstp: that should only change at reparse
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<ernstp> RP: hmmm I don't follow. how can I tell the difference between two different builds and two parsings?
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<LetoThe2nd> ernstp: ... which basically exactly what I meant. You're creating a build which is not reproducible because run at different points in time it will yield different results.
<ernstp> LetoThe2nd: It's like git AUTOINC
<RP> ernstp: the value of DATETIME is locked for a given build/parse
<LetoThe2nd> ernstp: no because fetch only happens once.
<LetoThe2nd> ernstp: and its also not reproducible.
<LetoThe2nd> ernstp: I mean, I get the value for development, but for prod its a really bad idea.
<RP> doing things like that definitely has reproducibility problems
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<Tyaku> Hello, did someone have a link to a tutorial about "how to build an out of tree module using the Yocto toolchain" ? I have an issue building an out-of-tree module using the toolchain, and made an exemple here with a simple module: https://pastebin.com/AKRvusTp The problem is: The building is OK, and the module can be executed on the target. BUT the module can't be removed ! it is marked as [permanent] when
<Tyaku> I run 'cat /proc/modules | grep ktest' I get this: 'ktest_module 16384 0 [permanent], Live 0xffff800008abf000 (O)' That is the reason why it cannot be removed.
<Tyaku> I think this is a building issue, because when it is build from Yocto using a recipe, then it can be removed
<Tyaku> But When built from the toolchain, the driver can't be removed using "rmmod".
<Tyaku> Yeah I always have dummy issues :/
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<ernstp> LetoThe2nd: I also want this code to only run once, like setting git AUTOINC/AUTOREV. So it would work in the same style
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<ernstp> RP: I think I managed to work something out with DATETIME, thanks!
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<kilobyte_ch> Any good idea if there is some intelligent way to package all files from IMAGE_BOOT_FILES into a custom package in a bitbake recipe?
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<kylex> I have run into some issue which I don't understand. I have two multiconfig targets (both cortexa9t2hf-neon), one uses musl and the other glibc. If I build the musl version first and then the glibc it works. But it seems like building the glibc config breaks musl. When building musl target, libgcc.inc do_install:append creates a link in sysroots-components named arm-poky-linux-gnueabi pointing to arm-poky-linux-musleabi. Won't this make building the glibc
<kylex> target overwrite/clear the musl files?
<kylex> It seems I can work around this using a custom distro which sets the TCLIBCAPPEND = "-${TCLIBC}" however TCLIBCAPPEND is removed in Styhead since "sharing TMPDIR for multiple libc providers has been supported for years". Am I doing something wrong?
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<tlwoerner> the latest pseudo issue, does it have a bugzilla?
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<fray> ahh that's the pci/rm race
<RP> fray: was tlwoerner referring to another?
<fray> I don't know
<tlwoerner> RP: i was late to the latest technical call and was asking about the one you were mentioning there. the status email talks about a pseudo bug too, but doesn't reference a bugzilla for it
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<tlwoerner> all of my oe-selftest tests on poky's master-next are failing because virglrenderer is throwing a build error
<tlwoerner> it looks like it's using the native gcc?
<RP> tlwoerner: I was referring to the above one
<tlwoerner> RP: great, thanks
<tlwoerner> RP: should it be categorized under pseudo instead of oe-core:oe-core?
<RP> tlwoerner: probably, it wasn't really understood initially
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<khem> kylex:its something we need to fix I guess, using libc specific tmpdir was papering over some such issues I guess
<khem> tlwoerner: virglrenderer-native will use host gcc
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<zeddii> JPEW, you've debugged bitbake more than I have. Where are the parsing logs stored ? I want to fix some operator whitespace issues, but can't for the life of me capture the log of the parsing.
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<JPEW> zeddii: Do you have an example of what you want to log?
<zeddii> whatever it is spitting out to the console when I build with the whitespace changes. sec. I'll pastebin it
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<zeddii> I can't figure out WTF those warnings are written to a file.
<zeddii> and I can't redirect it to anywhere on the command line of course.
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<fray> should be written to the tmp/log/<machine>/console-latest.log
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<zeddii> I don't see the warnings in there.
<fray> I'm not sure then, that is odd
* zeddii greps
<zeddii> I need something to feed to a script to fix them.
<JPEW> Huh, that's bizzare. I wonder if that's a bug in the default logging configuration
<zeddii> let me clear the cache and try again.
<zeddii> I may have done another run after and the parsing was cached, hence no output
<zeddii> ahah. there is is.
<zeddii> I didn
<RP> zeddii: tmp/log/cooker/<machine>/ should have them
<zeddii> problem solved. now to get chatgpt to write me a script
<RP> zeddii: didn't martin mail one?
<zeddii> I couldn't find the mail
<zeddii> I searched, but didn't see it.
<zeddii> ahah. cool. I checked oe-core and meta-oe.
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<zeddii> and crap. too much line breaking on that to just save the script and run it.
* zeddii gives up for now
<RP> can't help with that I'm afraid, my email copy is wrapped as well
<zeddii> I'll spend more time wondering which line is which, than just generating my own.
<RP> zeddii: JaMa might be around and have a copy?
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<zeddii> I've mostly fixed it up now, I'm just not sure if the sed expressions had a trailing space or not due to wrapping.
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<tlwoerner> khem: looks like i'll have to switch to using the hosttools once that hits master, any idea what is the minimum required gcc? my host is using 12.3.0, but i do have packages for 14
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<JaMa> yeah I have a copy if you still need it
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