00:31 <RP> abelloni: I'm hoping the stress-ng upgrade cleans things out properly

00:31 <RP> JPEW: I think/hope this is what we discussed on Tuesday

00:32 <JPEW> Ah I thought that was in already

00:32 <RP> hmm, 381 is too recent isn't it :(

00:34 <RP> that failure has stress-ng 13.09 and we have 13.10 in master now so that should be old

00:34 <RP> https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/commit/?id=fd4901288a146d33589c4d34249713378805429f

00:35 <RP> lets see what this new release build does I guess

10:36 <JaMa> Tofe: https://archlinux.org/packages/core/any/linux-firmware/ shows 9 split packages, https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-kernel/linux-firmware/linux-firmware_20211216.bb has 100+ packages

16:40 <moto-timo> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/yfhLKX50/

16:41 <moto-timo> I'm pedaling as fast as I can https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky-contrib/log/?h=timo/pypa-packaging

17:38 <moto-timo> I guess we needed another language https://ziglang.org

21:54 <vmeson> moto-timo: now or say in the summer for Zig? Does something you care about actually use Zig?

21:54 <kanavin> I think that was sarcastic :)

21:54 <kanavin> we do not need another 'c++ successor wannabe' for sure

21:55 <moto-timo> vmeson: I only noticed it because it is an optional dependency for maturin (which builds with just cargo \o/)

21:56 <vmeson> kanavin: not in core, that's for sure.

21:56 <vmeson> moto-timo: phew!

21:56 <moto-timo> kanavin: you know me too well

21:57 <moto-timo> Build everything with Python 4, Perl 7 and Zig

21:57 <kanavin> what happened to perl 6?

21:57 <kanavin> perpetual beta?

21:57 <moto-timo> Yup. Didn’t really gain traction

21:58 <vmeson> kanavin: have you ever had to take care of CVEs for a distro? I've only ever had to do that in a significant way in the last year and it has me cursing C/C++. alt.chromium.die.die.die!!!

21:58 <moto-timo> kanavin: I am ready to try a python3-jsonschema upgrade. I finally have the minimum tools

21:59 <moto-timo> Just now I got python3-installer-native to do a wheel install \o/

21:59 <kanavin> vmeson, I never did, it does sound like an extremely tedious, thankless job :-/

22:00 <kanavin> moto-timo, cool, I hope they converge on one way to install stuff, once and for all

22:00 <kanavin> python's been a total mess in that aspect

22:00 <moto-timo> still need to see some more patterns to create a class or two

22:00 <moto-timo> I’m closing in on a solution

22:00 <vmeson> kanavin: yes, it's no fun at all but it's part of the software lifecycle so it has made me appreciate languages that are memory safe since ~ 70% of bugs seem to be due to memory mis-use.

22:01 <moto-timo> pip didn’t work for installing python3-pep517… so we won’t use pip ;)

22:01 <kanavin> vmeson, I wrote on linkedin in late september that I can't stand C anymore

22:01 <moto-timo> pip is a bit heavy handed anyway

22:03 <kanavin> The world needs to ditch C. I really cannot stand the language anymore. Just spent a fair bit of time getting to the bottom of weird memory corruptions, and it was this gem. Now multiply this by all the hours all the developers spent on similar issues over the decades, and their salaries doing so. Meanwhile, the thing I *actually* wanted to do has to wait until tomorrow.

22:03 <kanavin> static inline void

22:03 <kanavin> ```

22:03 <kanavin> find_word(int *found, const char *line, const char *word)

22:03 <kanavin> {

22:03 <kanavin> char *pivot = NULL;

22:03 <kanavin> pivot = strdup(line);

22:03 <kanavin> pivot[strlen(word)] = '\0';

22:03 <kanavin> if (strcmp(pivot, word) == 0) { *found = 1; }

22:03 <kanavin> free(pivot);

22:03 <kanavin> }

22:03 <kanavin> ```

22:05 <moto-timo> vmeson: I started attempting to build nativesdk rust… needs more work to find the right libs

22:05 <moto-timo> I need to write up some rust places to help for the Twitter crowd

22:06 <kanavin> building target rust would be cool too

22:06 <moto-timo> Indeed

22:06 <kanavin> RP blacklisted it for now I think

22:06 <moto-timo> Two “must haves” ultimately

22:07 <moto-timo> maturin is interesting. It takes a Cargo.toml and builds a wheel (if the code is pyo3 etc)

22:07 <moto-timo> RP: that sucks

22:08 <RP> moto-timo: nice btw (wheel install) :)

22:08 <moto-timo> RP: yes, I am quite pleased

22:09 <moto-timo> I just need to take these hand crafted scripts and generalize them into classes.

22:09 <kanavin> if you haven't seen: patchv3 for rust in the kernel https://lwn.net/ml/linux-kernel/20220117053349.6804-1-ojeda@kernel.org/

22:10 <kanavin> it's good we're not unprepared for this glorious future

22:10 <vmeson> in case anyone else didn't know what maturin does : Build and publish crates with pyo3, rust-cpython and cffi bindings as well as rust binaries as python packages.

22:46 <moto-timo> for those of you following along at home https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky-contrib/log/?h=timo/pypa-packaging

22:46 <moto-timo> kanavin: python3-jsonschema upgrade success

22:50 <moto-timo> vmeson: still very early on maturin, but it builds and I have used it to build a wheel https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky-contrib/log/?h=timo/maturin

22:51 <moto-timo> vmeson: I hope we can drop setuptools_rust and use maturin... much simpler so far

22:53 <moto-timo> vmeson: I don't think it will help with python3-cryptography though... that is the wheel I built, but only the cryptography_rust "wheel" and not the cffi and pure python