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03:57 <snapsd> hello, I am working on to build a custom rootfs, where in one of the recipe, I download the prebuilt package and within that package there's control file which provides all the run time dependency (RDEPENDS) this recipe should set.

03:58 <snapsd> now the problem is, thought the RDEPENDS dependency chain is build by bitbake at very early when parsing recipe, how can I achive to set RDEPENDS dynamically and all the set RDEPENDES should get build

04:02 <snapsd> in do_fetch_append, I am able to get the control file which dependencies and set the RDEPENDS variable using setVar, but the dependent package are not getting build by yocto - any pointer will be helpful.

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07:38 <mckoan> good morning

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07:55 <snapsd> good morning mckoan

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08:55 <coldspark29[m]> Morning

08:56 <coldspark29[m]> Is it good practice to add the local.conf and bblayers.conf to version control?

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09:09 <qschulz> coldspark29[m]: no

09:09 <qschulz> local.conf is local as the name implies

09:09 <qschulz> bblayers is dependent on the user directory layout, and you shouldn't make assumptions on those

09:10 <coldspark29[m]> qschulz: Okay thought so

09:12 <qschulz> snapsd: it is probably possible to do what you want, but I'd say this is in the area of hacks and not proper support

09:12 <qschulz> snapsd: you want to hook your logic into the task that sets and reads the RDEPENDS, which I assume is something like do_package more or less

09:13 <qschulz> then set RDEPENDS variable there based on the file in your sources

09:13 <snapsd> qschulz - yes, after unpack, I have access to what I need to set as RDEPENDS and added task to do so...

09:13 <qschulz> snapsd: FWIW, https://github.com/nymea/meta-nymea/blob/master/recipes-nymea/nymea-plugins/nymea-plugins_git.bb#L45 is possible, though it's probably not in the exact task/function you'd want this to be hooked

09:14 <snapsd> now problem is, the value is correctly set in RDEPENDS (printed it and varifiled in pkgdata).. but those dependencies are not built by yocto

09:14 <qschulz> snapsd: no, you need to set RDEPENDS dynamically in ALL tasks that use RDEPENDS

09:14 <qschulz> because of the scope of variables

09:14 <qschulz> if you set a variable in a task, its value stays in the task

09:14 <qschulz> it's gone or reset to the recipe scope upon starting the next task

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09:16 <snapsd> alright, so the example you pointed -- there "split_nymea_plugins_packages" this task will set RDEP globally (accessible thruout the recipe)? and before/after which task?

09:18 <snapsd> qschulz - is I am trying to figure out the order of this

09:18 <snapsd> qschulz - is I am trying to figure out the order of this split_nymea_plugins_packages execution

09:21 <qschulz> snapsd: no, it sets RDEPENDS only in one task. The only way to have something set in the recipe scope (and NOT global scope!) is by setting the variable in a python anonymous function which is run when the recipe is aprsed, well before your sources are fetched

09:21 <qschulz> snapsd: it's called by the logic handling PACKAGES_DYNAMIC IIRC

09:22 <snapsd> I see. this is something I want to achive.. I get what goes in my RDEPENDS after do_unpack --> after this point I want to set RDEP such a way that,.. yocto would normally handle building of dependencies

09:23 <qschulz> snapsd: is it RDEPENDS or DEPENDS that you are talking about? Because those are two completely different things

09:23 <qschulz> snapsd: for RDEPENDS, it's probably handled by code in the opky/meta/classes/package.bbclass

09:23 <snapsd> qschulz - I want in RDEPENDS, it's runtime dependency

09:24 <qschulz> snapsd: may you explain what exactly you're trying to achive in having your RDEPENDS listed in your source code and not in Yocto?

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09:26 <snapsd> yes, I am fetching some package and this package will give me what I should set as RDEPENDS,.. so I have access to that after download (do_fetch) and extract (do_unpack) stage, after unpack, I can read the RDEPS from the extracted file and need to set it for yocto to do further processing of RDEPENDS variable as it would do normally

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09:28 <qschulz> the question is why?

09:28 <qschulz> does your prebuilt package have shared libraries? Because in that case, Yocto automatically reads the dependency objdump finds for it

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09:29 <qschulz> also, prebuilt binaries and Yocto is a dangerous path to take

09:30 <qschulz> there's no guarantee it's compiled for the same version of the libc or any other build and runtime dependency.

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09:37 <coldspark29[m]> How do I know which branch of meta-browser to checkout? They are not grouped for gatesgarth, hardknott etc.

09:37 <coldspark29[m]> Master used to work. but now not anymore. So that is also not practical.

09:44 <zpfvo> coldspark29[m]: I would just checkout the last working revision

09:46 <qschulz> coldspark29[m]: checkout the branch named after the Yocto release you use, but since among the releases that are officially supported none have their own branch, I guess master is the only solution

09:46 <qschulz> coldspark29[m]: also "but now not anymore" isn't really helpful :/

09:46 <qschulz> which Yocto version are you using and what's the error you're having with meta-browser?

09:53 <coldspark29[m]> <qschulz> "coldspark29: also "but now not..." <- Yeah sorry, I have to get to the bottom of this. We used a fixed commit hash in the Repo tool and it used to compile. Now I am getting compilation errors with that hash. The same with master. I already tried checking out the repo again. Same thing.

09:54 <coldspark29[m]> Weirdly, it works when I check it out with kas. Seems like kas and repo don't checkout the same commits when set to master. Have to recheck. That would be really weird.

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10:24 <ziga> How do I build mmy own image on top of "core-image-x11"? When I was building on top of "core-image" I just added "inherit core-image" to my image's recipe? But "inherit core-image-x11" fails.

10:25 <hmw[m]> hi i'm trying to convert my project from qmake to cmake.... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/1a2a258469a09ac2aea82b97a16f2420279f2af0)

10:26 <qschulz> ziga: inherit is only for classes. core-image-x11 is not a class but a recipe, therefore one should use "include" or "require"

10:26 <qschulz> if they are not in the same directory, the path relative to the root of the layer the recipe to be included in is needs to be passed to include/require

10:27 <ziga> @schulz Where is core-image-x11 located?

10:27 <qschulz> ziga: find -name "core-image-x11*" ?

10:27 <ziga> @qschulz OK

10:27 <ziga> @qschulz ty

10:27 <qschulz> ziga: https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/351/

10:28 <ziga> @qschulz Ah! This is a nice way to discover layers! Thank you so much for this idea!

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11:45 <rburton> RP: fyi hardknott and honister both have broken kernel build depends now, not noticable with standard gcc as there are implicit deps, but breaks the build with external toolchains.

11:45 <rburton> thanks for merging the fix to master

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11:56 <RP> rburton: have you let anuj know?

11:56 <RP> rburton: ah, it has been sent

11:57 <rburton> yeah, one was sent with master, the other this morning

11:58 <RP> rburton: I've merged it to both older branches

11:58 <rburton> thanks

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12:00 <RP> kanavin: do you happen to be looking at the epiphany cves?

12:03 <rburton> RP: just looked at the xorg cves

12:03 <rburton> one is actually pixman, just mailed to get the cpe updated

12:04 <RP> rburton: one says "won't fix" from RH

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12:04 <rburton> yeah the race is crazy rare

12:04 <rburton> i can't think of anything that doesn't abort() if you close the server socket

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12:08 <kanavin> RP: they should be all resolved by a trivial version update, which I'll try to get into my next batch

12:08 <kanavin> RP: I was fighting with the set I just sent out throughout last week

12:09 <kanavin> once that set merges, we can re-run AUH to roll up

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12:16 <RP> kanavin: ok, thanks!

12:17 <kanavin> RP: meanwhile I am pulling my hair out figuring out the confusion between HOST_SYS and TARGET_SYS throughout oe-core

12:17 <kanavin> building cross-canadian gcc for the target isn't easy :)

12:18 <rburton> kanavin: yes, that's a massive mess

12:18 <kanavin> and GNU terminology doesn't help, I can see why someone would say TARGET_x, when they meant HOST_x

12:18 <rburton> yeah

12:19 <kanavin> TARGET_ must be only used when it differs from HOST_

12:19 <RP> kanavin: I started trying to improve that years ago but only got so far :/

12:26 <kanavin> rburton, RP at least autotools.bbclass gets it right, and we should follow from there

12:26 <kanavin> CONFIGUREOPTS = " --build=${BUILD_SYS} \

12:26 <kanavin> --target=${TARGET_SYS} \

12:26 <kanavin> --host=${HOST_SYS} \

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12:29 <rburton> at least its relatively easy to grep for all users of TARGET_ and change 99% of them to HOST_

12:30 <rburton> if you're not a compiler, you mean host

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12:30 <rburton> and i entirely expect to have used the wrong name repeatedly myself

12:30 <RP> I think I focused on getting the right things where it really matters

12:33 <RP> Ah, my last changes were removing TARGET_CFLAGS -> CFLAGS and similar

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12:43 <rburton> zeddii: just sent a patch for meta-virt to fix it on hardknott. upgraded busybox again

12:43 <rburton> hm

12:43 <rburton> i wonder if that can use PV

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12:59 <kanavin> rburton, RP another issue is that HOST_ is set from TARGET_, when it should be the other way around

12:59 <kanavin> e.g changing TARGET_ should not affect HOST_

12:59 <kanavin> I'll try to cook up a patchset for these things, and see how the AB does with it

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13:11 <RP> kanavin: part of the trouble is the terminology isn't understood by people so I think this will confuse them :(

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13:51 <vd> does the kernel require something in particular to run with qemuarm? I have a serial console with beaglebone-yocto but not beaglebone from meta-ti even though I copied over all QB_* and SERIAL_CONSOLES* variables

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14:19 <hmw[m]> hi i'm trying to convert my project from qmake to cmake. ( im trying to build it using a yocto sdk)... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/1e5a9c1716434aa9156519c24421b6497cda797f)

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14:32 <RP> zeddii: when you start sending html emails I think the world is about to end! :)

14:32 <paulg> SAY IT ISN'T TRUE!

14:33 <RP> paulg: I think he is lost to us

14:33 <paulg> Better check PGP sigs - must be an imposter.

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15:13 <fray> is QT being built on the autobuilder? We're seeing rare, but occasional failures in qtbase. We turn off parallel builds and they go away, but it also adds many hours to the build

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15:15 <fray> Also I am attempting to build a package set with DISTRO_FEATURES with both sysvinit and systemd set. (That works.) As long as I create a normal filesystem, no problem the INIT_MANAGER selected ends up in the image. HOWEVER if I add "dev-pkgs" to build, it fails with both systemd and sysvinit providing /sbin/telinit. I traced it back to something deciding we needed systemd-dev, and systemd-dev requiring

15:16 <fray> systemd..

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15:16 <fray> I've not been able to break that dependency. I tried PACKAGE_EXCLUDE_COMPLEMENTARY and wasn't able to break that systemd-dev

15:17 <fray> Any suggestions?

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15:23 <RP> fray: not tested on the AB

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15:40 <fray> RP - ok, so anyway, I think QT has a minor parallization issue.. rare but happens.. If it's not tested on the autbuilder then not your concern. Currently I'm advising people to just "retry the build"..

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16:25 <RP> fray: I think the problem there is that systemd-dev pulls in systemd itself ?

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16:37 <fray> RP yes.. systemd-udev -> systemd-dev (via dev-pkgs) -> systemd and collision

16:37 <fray> I'm trying ot figure out how to stop either systemd-dev or systemd to avoid the collision

16:38 <RP> fray: several other pieces in the init package are update-alternatives

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16:42 <fray> I like the systemd-udev -- it seems to bring some uniformity to the sysvinit (without exploding filesystem size like full systemd)..

16:42 <fray> but I might need to break that somehow and go back to mdev

16:43 <fray> (I was surprised, but in my limited testing the systemd-udev with sysvinit actually seems to work pretty well)

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16:57 <smurray> fray: I build qt a lot for AGL, haven't seen a failure for a long time. We don't build the qtweb* pieces, though

16:58 <fray> this is just the stock meta-qt qtbase

16:58 <fray> I mean meta-qt5

16:59 <fray> anyway, it seems about 1 out of about every 100 builds fails due to what appears to be a parallization issue

17:01 <smurray> fray: hrm, odd we've not seen it that I can recall right off. You likely have bigger builders than we do, though

17:03 <fray> these are 32? or 64 core builders

17:08 <fray> back ot the sysv.. I said mdev, I meant eudev

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17:19 <smurray> fray: my local machine is 24c/48t, so not super far off

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18:26 <vd> what does the kernel need for runqemu?

18:26 <vd> I have no console with the beaglebone from meta-ti

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18:52 <zeddii> there's no guarantee that qemu has what a given h/w BSP is looking for.

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20:04 <LetoThe2nd> yo dudX

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20:26 <alejandrohs> Good morning/afternoon/night

20:26 <LetoThe2nd> It's always beer o'clock

20:26 <alejandrohs> is anyone else getting an index from docs.yoctoproject.org

20:26 <alejandrohs> That I can agree with

20:26 <LetoThe2nd> alejandrohs: confirmed.

20:27 <LetoThe2nd> halstead: ^^^^^

20:27 <alejandrohs> okay just making sure we were aware

20:27 <alejandrohs> halstead: clicking on the proper release does work btw

20:29 <halstead> alejandrohs: LetoThe2nd yes, I reported that to michaelo. I have a temporary fix but it only lasts until the next docs build

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20:29 <LetoThe2nd> halstead: don'T build, then!

20:29 <alejandrohs> halstead: alright thanks for checking

20:30 <LetoThe2nd> +1

20:30 <fray> More information, with both sysvinit and systemd in the DISTRO_FEATURES. A large number of things appear to get linked against libsystemd0. (psplash, rpcbind, dbus, and others).. and I if I use dev-pkgs, then it forces systemd.. and blows up

20:33 <halstead> I've applied the fix again. https://docs.yoctoproject.org/

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22:16 <RP> halstead: sorry, this has been passed to me to sort with a merge

22:17 <RP> JPEW: ready for a new taskhash nightmare? :/

22:17 <JPEW> uh oh

22:18 <RP> JPEW: kanavin has found an interesting cornercase and problem

22:18 <RP> JPEW: rpm-native depends on zstd-native. So far so good

22:18 <RP> JPEW: the trouble is that zstd-native can change in output changing ways and yet rpm-native can remain unchanged

22:19 <RP> JPEW: this means two rpm-natives can be marked as identical even if built with different zstd-native

22:20 <RP> JPEW: now think about what happens to a do_package_write_rpm which only depends on rpm-native but may be generated with different zstd-native versions

22:20 <fray> ok.. I found that the 'PACKAGE_EXCLUDE_COMPLEMENTARY' requires the _input_ files to exclude, not output..

22:21 <JPEW> RP: Ah, the transitve dependency on zstd-native is hidden

22:21 <RP> JPEW: yes

22:21 <fray> so I was able to add libsystemd libudev udev and systemd -- and the system no longer adds 'systemd-dev' to a combo systemd and sysvinit

22:22 <JPEW> RP: OK, so this is worse than a transative dependency on a library (for example) because do_package_write_rpm is actually using zstd-native

22:23 <RP> JPEW: yes, and the output of the tasks depends on which zstd-native

22:23 <RP> JPEW: I've been puzzling over it. I have one potential solution but thought I'd see what you think before I share mine (I don't like it)

22:23 <JPEW> do_package_write_rpm should depend on zstd-native?

22:24 <RP> JPEW: that fixes a specific corner case we've found but what about any other dymanically linked lib in the native case?

22:26 <JPEW> RP: Ah, ok.... so the part about this that is specific to -native is that the dependencies are actually _run_ which means they can directly affect the output (unlike target recipes)

22:26 <RP> JPEW: exactly, that is my analysis anyway

22:26 <JPEW> And.... it's really hard to know when that will happen

22:26 <JPEW> Ok, what's your solution

22:27 <RP> JPEW: well, I was wondering what you'd come up with :). I can share if you really want though. I did only just think of it now so it may be half baked

22:28 <JPEW> RP: Fair.... I'd have to roll it around a little

22:28 <RP> JPEW: we ran into this over the weekend so it has been rolling around in my mind for a bit longer

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23:18 <RP> JPEW: something in master-next is breaking mingw: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/89/builds/4586/steps/12/logs/stdio - I assume openssl never built for mingw previously?

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23:52 <JPEW> RP: no. Usually from python getting dragged in, but not always