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<ox1eef_> Thanks! That's definitely worth looking into.
<ox1eef_> weaksauc_: Looks a lot more advanced than what I hacked together.
<ox1eef_> I think rset is exactly what I need.
<weaksauc_> yeah it's a fairly mature thing... kinda neat though
<weaksauc_> the blogpost for it
<weaksauc_> interactive checklists
<ox1eef_> It is cool but probably a few levels above the level of abstraction I'm looking for.
<weaksauc_> yeah that's fair it does say it is not meant to replace rake et al
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<ox1eef_> The nice thing about rset is that it is a collection of small utilities that can be used as one unit, or paired together with other tools, so there's a good deal of flexibility.
<ox1eef_> Keep in mind I learnt about it only 5 minutes ago xD
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<adam12> It's from the same author as entr, if you've ever used that.
<adam12> I was using drist for a while. It's pretty decent too, but i found rset more to my mental model.
<ox1eef_> +1
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<weaksauc_> rset does look perfect for what you were trying to do though
<ox1eef_> Indeed.
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<rapha> that's very meta, ox1eef_. i'll be staring at it for a while. why #binwrite btw?
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<ox1eef_> rapha: More habit than anything else.
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<ox1eef_> I used 'ERBContext' as a means to not litter the rake context with helper methods.
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<retroj> Hello. On a Debian 11/Bullseye system, any 'rake' command that I run, including 'rake --version' produces an error like the following: http://paste.debian.net/1274425/ Any ideas what could be causing this? Thank you.
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<weaksauc_> how is rspec's documentation still down?
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<weaksauc_> oh
<weaksauc_> i always thought the relishapp docs were the main
<adam12> weaksauc_: Did you read the blog post about it?
<weaksauc_> no indeed
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<adam12> retroj: How'd you install ruby?
<weaksauce> thank you
<adam12> retroj: Can you share full backtrace?
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<adam12> weaksauce: Doesn't cover it directly, but basically the one guy left who cared lost access. Unsure the future of relishapp.
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<adam12> This is the one I was looking for originally.
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<ox1eef_> retroj: deprecate_constant is a relatively new Ruby feature. My guess is that your Ruby version is too old to run the version of RubyGems you're using.
<ox1eef_> And tbh, given that it is debian, it is not that surprising.
<weaksauce> i wonder if there is any static copy of those pages
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<adam12> Also, PSA: I've been trying to archive whatever interesting Ruby stuff I can on archive.ph. So if you do find something interesting, do the same.
<adam12> We have a lot of blog bitrot in Ruby and it would be nice to have archives of some older stuff. But maybe that's just me digging through circa 2008 web framework blogs :P
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<retroj> adam12, ox1eef_: I installed them from debian bullseye. I have redmine from bullseye-backports though, so I need to see if that caused an issue, or if some bundle command that I did trying to troubleshoot did something?
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<ox1eef_> What ruby version are you running?
<retroj> ox1eef_: ruby 2.7.4p191
<ox1eef_> ruby -e 'p Module.method(:deprecate_constant)' works or no?
<retroj> yes
<ox1eef_> And, ruby -e 'p Gem.method(:deprecate_constant)' works?
<retroj> yes
<ox1eef_> Really odd, then. Does 'ruby -S rake' work?
<retroj> further information: 'ruby -S rake --version' works. 'rake --version' gives the error that I reported. also any rake command that I run via 'bundle' gives the error.
<retroj> I must have an old version of rake sitting around somewhere? this system has been upgraded from a previous version of Debian
<ox1eef_> cat $(which rake)
<ox1eef_> Probably resolving to an older ruby or something.
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<retroj> that appears to be the case. http://paste.debian.net/1274444/
<ox1eef_> Indeed.
<retroj> Okay, this is huge progress, but I have to sign off for the day. Thank you so much. I will investigate further tomorrow.
<ox1eef_> +1
<retroj> thanks!
<ox1eef_> Welcome.
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<Synthead> Can I require a rubygems version as a part of rbenv, bundler, etc?
<Synthead> I'm looking to consume https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems/pull/6390, which was released last week
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<ox1eef_> Synthead: Clone the repository, and follow this: https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems#installation
<Synthead> ox1eef_: can I do this via `bundle` without running `gem update --system`?
<Synthead> my thought is that if someone does a typical flow of git clone, rbenv --install, bundle, they won't be fully set up yet
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<Synthead> I could update rubygems in the docker container we use, but it's still kind of a gotcha
<Synthead> if they are using metal, they will have to ensure that their rubygems are up to date
<ox1eef_> AFAIK RubyGems is unique. It would be installed the same way as other libraries would before RubyGems existed.
<ox1eef_> I have worked around the issue in the past with: ruby -I /path/to/rubygems/repo/lib -rrubygems but that's a temporary, quick fix.
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<ox1eef_> You could maybe set RUBYLIB to point at the closed repository's lib directory. Worth a try I guess.
<ox1eef_> s/closed/cloned/
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