08:58 <vim54> hello?

08:59 <Franciman> h ivi

08:59 <Franciman> hi vim54

09:00 <vim54> hello, i have a  question about window management in river

09:01 <vim54> the default keybinds to resize the windows is :

09:01 <vim54> riverctl map normal Super+Alt+Shift J resize vertical 100

09:01 <vim54> but they switch my windows to float mode, is there any way i can resize windows while still being in tiled mode?

09:35 <aktina> so many keys to hold on, so awkward in my hands

09:37 <aktina> resize command in riverctl turns it into floating mode before resizing

09:37 <aktina> i think you have to mess with your rivertile config to resize in tiling mode

09:39 <aktina> or some other layout generator entirely, as rivertile can only adjust main-ratio i.e horizontal size, not vertical which you seem to want in your case (if i'm not wrong _checks manpage_)

10:14 <AlmostSurelyRob> Hello,

10:14 <AlmostSurelyRob> So I've been now using River for some time and really liking it. In fact, I've been using for long enough to be spotted by my company for not using an approved screen locker. I was originally on waylock. swaylock is approved so I switched, but i thought I will simplify my setting my having only one command in a variable and have both swayidle and

10:14 <AlmostSurelyRob> lock shortcut. I did this:

10:14 <AlmostSurelyRob> https://bpa.st/OSEQ,

10:14 <AlmostSurelyRob> but the use of a variable in river/init doesn't seem to be working - can someone explain why and if it's possible to have only one lock screen command used in multiple setting commands?

11:23 <TheAnachron> does swayidle work with watching movies/music? or do you have to keep moving your mouse?

11:24 <TheAnachron> not sure why you dont put those arguments into a shell script and simply run the shell script?

11:28 <TheAnachron> I guess I will give https://git.sr.ht/%7Ewhynothugo/wayidle a try for auto locking :)

11:46 <tiosgz> AlmostSurelyRob: you're missing the 'spawn' in your keybind. also, the 'export' is unneeded if you don't use the variable anywhere but your init

12:32 <AlmostSurelyRob> Right @tiosgz and sorry - an obvious remissness on my side.

12:32 <AlmostSurelyRob> Thank you!

12:58 <TheAnachron> sometimes its the simple things!

12:59 <TheAnachron> it took me 1 hour to debug an issue with a script. but the script wasnt the problem. :D

15:54 <szgy> hi y'all, I was wondering what do y'all do regarding turning off the screen. I've been using waylock to lock the screen with a keybind, but I wanted to actually turn the screen off on a keybind and wake it up when moving the mouse (or pressing a key)

15:54 <szgy> is swayidle the only software capable of doing this??

15:55 <szgy> mhm, I correct myself, swayidle is just to do smth after a timeout. So not necessarily applies to this...

15:56 <vyivel> szgy: wlopm?

15:57 <szgy> wlopm takes care of turning of a display. Buuut, how to handle turning it on when I move the mouse, or press a key?

15:57 <szgy> (probably by pluging wlopm to smth else, but what?)

16:01 <vyivel> swayidle timeout 0 true resume 'wlopm --on *'

16:01 <vyivel> ?

16:01 <vyivel> a bit hacky but might work

16:01 <autisticshark> I have the following swayidle/swaylock/wlopm stuff in river/init if it helps:

16:01 <autisticshark> swayidle -w timeout 1230 "notify-send -u low System 'Locking session in 30 seconds'" timeout 1260 "swaylock-desktop-image.sh" timeout 1800 "wlopm --off '*'" resume "wlopm --on '*'" &

16:11 <szgy> mhm! yeah. I don't know why I refrain from installing swayidle. It feels like cheating river xD

16:26 <szgy> mhm I think I can't use the resume event since I'm not using systemd :(

16:59 <szgy> oh wait, it does work...

17:01 <aktina> on not having systemd, you'd be having trouble with on-suspend option

17:02 <aktina> resume event works just fine

17:02 <szgy> yep

17:48 <aktina> szgy: for on-suspend like activity, you can use this idea https://www.reddit.com/r/voidlinux/comments/10uqjnu/swaylock_on_lid_closesuspend_without_wlogind/

17:49 <aktina> zzz hook script being /etc/zzz.d/suspend/notify with that touch /run/zzz/will-sleep command in it

17:50 <aktina> before that in rc.local have the command mkdir -p /run/zzz && touch /run/zzz/will-sleep

17:50 <aktina> then use wendy to run "wendy -w /run/zzz/will-sleep $swaylock command

17:51 <aktina> courtesy ahesford, on voidlinux channel who helped me with this just now

18:09 <szgy> heh, nice, gonna check it out!

18:10 <szgy> mhm, seems like a lot xD

19:37 <vim1729> hello, anyon here :)

19:43 <leon-p> hello

19:43 <lordmzte> Is it possible to apply a fragment shader to a surface/an output/all outputs under river?

19:45 <leon-p> not without modifying the code

19:46 <leon-p> and even then I don't think you can just insert shaders into the default wlroots renderer

19:47 <leon-p> user provided shaders would be neat though, they basically allow us to solve 1/2 of all eye-candy feature-request without actually implementing them :)

19:48 <lordmzte> Yea, I'd mostly use them to shove everything through a lookup table to catppuccin-ify my colors :P

19:49 <lordmzte> I think hyprland has this, but I haven't used that since they added it. They have a custom renderer, though.

19:49 <leon-p> the other half, animations, can actually be mostly done clientside by WMs by simply drawing animations to surfaces and showing/hiding the actual windows accordingly. I have thought about that on the bus ride home today and am surprised how cleanly you can implement most common animations that way

19:49 <lordmzte> There's also a program, the name of which I forgot that can do this for individual windows, but it only works for vulkan. it uses some vulkan-specific middleware thing.

19:50 <lordmzte> That's a neat way of doing it. I'd never bother writing animations myself, though.

19:58 <vim1729> riverctl map normal Super+Alt+Shift H resize horizontal -100

19:58 <vim1729> why does this change my window mode to floating automatically??

19:58 <vim1729> i want to resize windows in tiled mode, is there any way?

20:02 <leon-p> vim1729: resizing individual windows will always auto-float them due to limitations of the layout protocol

20:02 <leon-p> if you wish to change the layout, you'll have to send commands to the layout generator

20:03 <leon-p> however, a layout which allows individual windows to be resized in-situ isn't cleanly doable

20:04 <lordmzte> The size and position of non-floating windows is always set by the layout generator, I assume rivertile in your case. With rivertile, you can change the size ration of the main window with `send-layout-cmd rivertile main-ration +0.05/-0.05` for example, which is probably as close as you're gonna get.

20:05 <vim1729> yes thanks for reply, i know about the main-ratio command but it change the layout in all the workspaces, which i dont want

20:06 <leon-p> vim1729: there are alternative layout generators, which store certain variables, like main-ratio (or something similar) per-tagset

20:06 <leon-p> check the wiki on codeberg, there is a list of community layouts

20:10 <vim1729> oh, i will try them then...thanks leon :) and  i love river as i used bspwm in x11

20:17 <lordmzte> How would one even implement a layout generator that can keep track of individual windows? I though the only information a layout generator gets is the number of windows, not being able to tell them apart.

20:20 <leon-p> I don't think you can. This has come up often and each time I instinvtively spend at least three or four minutes thinking about it, but I can't even come up with a hacky workaround

20:32 <lordmzte> Oh you said per-target earlier, I read per-surface for some reason :P

20:33 <lordmzte> well you could probably do it by routing every single request that moves windows around through the layout generator first so it can keep its own state and infer windows being added and removed by the number changing.

20:34 <lordmzte> and sorry for possibly wasting 4 minutes of your life :D

20:57 <leon-p> I mean, a wayland client can also get the position of it's window on screen by painting it bright purple, taking a screenshot and searching for the colour. At some point you just have to stop :D