14:05 <szgy> hi everyone, has anyone built a tabbed layout for river? is it doable to built tabs as a layout generator?

14:47 <szgy> (also, do window swallowing scripts exists for river? I saw some discussions on the repo but it seems there are some wayland protocols that need to be supported to avoid hacky solutions...)

15:08 <ifreund> szgy: layout generators can't draw a tab UI, so what you're looking for there probably doesn't exist. There may very well be one that implements the functionality you want minus the UI though

15:09 <ifreund> as far as swallowing goes, I'm not aware of any non hacky approaches and haven't but any time into it myself

15:10 <szgy> mhm, yeah I think the UI is not THAT important. I guess one can think of a tabbed layout as cyclying between fullscreen windows. Probably not that hard to implement using riverctl calls ?

15:11 <szgy> I think those two things are what stopping me to using river...

15:14 <ifreund> szgy: "cycling between fullscreen windows" is often called a "monocle" layout, I've heard that rivercarro has that

15:16 <szgy> is there a place to look for river tilers? I didn't know about rivercarro and on the river wiki there is not a list of tilers...

15:20 <szgy> (oops, there's a community layout link on the wiki :P )

15:53 <angry_vincent> wasn't there some monocle-like feauture added this year?

15:55 <ifreund> angry_vincent: monocle layouts have always been possible through layout generators, nothing has changed recently with regard to them

15:55 <angry_vincent> in default rivertile i meant

15:58 <angry_vincent> besides scratchpad i particularly like monocle layout too :)

16:02 <angry_vincent> on the other hand i tend to not like features that are not in main project ( like other layout generators ). i know, hard case

16:23 <novakane> rivertile features haven't changed since a long time, so no there is no monocle layout in it

16:23 <angry_vincent> there was some discussions on channel about similar feature.

16:24 <novakane> you kinda miss a great features of river by not wanting to use 3rd party layout generators imo

16:25 <angry_vincent> i know

16:25 <angry_vincent> i may try one. with monocle support

16:28 <angry_vincent> which one it is? rivercarro?

16:29 <novakane> yes maybe some others too

16:30 <novakane> I'm not really aware of all features of others layout generators

16:32 <angry_vincent> what are other noticeable features of rivercarro, besides monocle?

16:35 <angry_vincent> ok, some of them are pointed in it's home page. but i do not know what they mean. except monocle

16:45 <novakane> angry_vincent: gaps instead of padding means you don't have a gaps all around a view

16:45 <novakane> you can modify gaps at runtime with riverctl

16:46 <novakane> and smart gaps is just that if there is only one window displayed there is no gaps around it

16:51 <novakane> oh, wlroots 0.17, so what's the plan for river?

16:53 <angry_vincent> can you provide a screenshot what are gaps?

16:53 <ifreund> novakane: I'll update river's master branch asap, not going to rush a release though

17:14 <novakane> angry_vincent: in rivertile if you have outer gaps at 0 you still have some gaps around windows because inner gaps is a padding https://0x0.st/HwKh.png

17:14 <novakane> in rivercarro that's not the case as the gaps is really a gaps between windows https://0x0.st/HwKF.png

17:15 <novakane> ifreund: nice, I wasn't sure if you'll do it before 0.3.0, you already worked on it?

17:16 <novakane> angry_vincent: don't mind the super red background to see te gaps better lol

17:16 <angry_vincent> novakane: thx

17:18 <ifreund> novakane: not yet, but mainiomano did a zig-wlroots upgrade fairly recently which I should be able to scoop up :)

18:00 <novakane> cool, I haven't read the wlroots changelog yet, is this gonna break a lot of things in river?

18:01 <novakane> I feel like there was more new protocol to add support if we want in this release

18:02 <novakane> oh yeah, wp-fractional-scale-v1 is probably one we want

18:22 <ifreund> cursor-shape-v1 as well

21:49 <maxxv> Finally wl_surface.preferred_buffer_scale