12:55 <TheAnachron> btw ireund I can confirm that the fullscreen fix works, thanks!

13:31 <ifreund> no problem :)

16:50 <opal> for multihead is there a way to reorder outputs? and query the output titles?

17:28 <leon-p> opal: wlr-randr (manually), kanshi (automaticaly based on config)

17:28 <opal> ah thanks

17:30 <opal> kanshi supports hotplugging, nice

17:36 <opal> river itself seems to be really nice after whatever runtime issue was fixed a while ago, thats what initially prevented me from going back to wayland after i ditched i3/sway. gonna be a lot of setup for other utilities (and likely writing new ones for where there arent good wl answers) before i move away from x though

17:39 <leon-p> opal: please let us know for which x utils you don't have a wayland replacement yet

17:40 <leon-p> I find most things can be easiely replaced by duct taping protocols together or writing a few hundred lines of C boilerplate

17:40 <opal> that would have to involve me publicly shaming someone for not minding their diffstats and i dont think you want to see that side of me in here

17:41 <opal> it was bad, trying to even patch that monstrosity

17:41 <leon-p> is it replaceable?

17:42 <opal> by something i write, sure, shouldnt be that hard and may even involve code reuse

21:21 <eoli3n> Hi, would someone describe main differences with sway pls ?

21:23 <eoli3n> all #sway and #voidlinux people are here :)

21:24 <leon-p> eoli3n: main difference is arguably that sway tiles by having a window tree the user manipulates directly, while river having a list of windows with an external program assigning a layout to that

21:30 <eoli3n> hm is there any ressource to discover how river works ? i can only find github, no website ?

21:31 <eoli3n> i guess the wiki is the entry point

21:33 <waleee> leon-p wrote a blogpost/tutorial a while ago

21:34 <waleee> https://leon_plickat.srht.site/writing/river-setup-guide/article.html

21:34 <waleee> I must say that I think the previous stylesheet was more blog friendly

21:35 <waleee> leon-p: is it a made up script in the square below the menu or is it a real one?

21:37 <leon-p> waleee: made up by me, but real in the sense that there is a (mild) system behind it

21:37 <leon-p> basically I got insanely bored in a stat. mech. lecture

21:38 <leon-p> the new style is a bit different, sure, but it is actually a big improvement over the old w.r.t. accessibility

21:38 <leon-p> what is you main pain point with it?

21:38 <leon-p> (also, I put in some effort that the site looks fine if you use the "print to pdf" function of FF, you may like that more)

21:40 <waleee> it looks a bit squished on the right margin if you have the "standard" dwm-alike proportions of the stack layout

21:40 <leon-p> Hmm, I could probably increase the max-width before the menu gets put at the top

21:40 <waleee> otherwise it's mainly subjective and ignorable

21:41 <leon-p> if you try make it even slimmer, it should be a better ironically

21:42 <waleee> at about 80:20 on my screen

21:44 <ifreund> I like the new one, I see you now have a logo as well :)

21:44 <leon-p> yeah, learned inkscape just for that :)

21:46 <eoli3n> thanks for the link, didn't read all details, but i get the big picture now