00:25 <leon-p> on my workstation I have a firefox process that has been running for about ~3 days and I don't think it likes being alive this long: It now takes multiple seconds before responding to MPRIS events...

01:00 <Guest32> For those of you that are using Waybar: how are you handling language module? I assume you are using something custom but I don't know how to display the current layout.

01:00 <Guest32> setxkbmap -query always shows us (my default) even when I switch to a different layout

01:14 <leon-p> Guest23: it is right now not possible to querry the currently active keyboard layout

01:15 <leon-p> and setxkbmap not working is not surprising since it's a tool for X and not Wayland

01:18 <Guest32> okay :( Thanks for explaining

01:18 <leon-p> we have an open PR for that, but not sure when that feature will land in master

01:19 <Guest32> Hopefully, it will come soon. Not a big deal but it would be nice to have

13:33 <jlv> Is there anywhere I can find images of layouts made with River? I am particularly interested in `kile` and `stacktile`, but they lack documentation. I just want to see what I am getting before I take the time to compile and set them up.

16:40 <JustineSmithies> Been playing with the latest commits of PR #852 and have to say it's perfect. Setting tag values for binary isn't an issue as long as the user knows as I played and set foot to 5 which obvs puts foot on tag 1 and 3 . Nice !

18:54 <jlv> Is there any documentation or better examples for `kile`? I like the default layout, but I have no idea how to change it. Mostly, I want to add support for `main-count` and `main-ratio`.

19:03 <JustineSmithies> Can I ask those of you using River with multimonitor setups do you have the tags in your bar if you use one number or set as icons for various things like browser , code editor, terminal ?

19:04 <JustineSmithies> I mean I used to be icons woth Qtile and Sway but for some reason River feels right with just numbers.

19:15 <leon-p> specific tags for specifc things would be pretty restrictive IMO

19:16 <leon-p> I commonly have multiple editors open for multiple projects

19:16 <leon-p> same with web-browsers, I have 4 Firefox windows open right now

19:17 <ifreund> I do have places I usually put things out of habit, but yeah it's pretty flexible

19:19 <leon-p> that's also why I really want ext-foreign-toplevel-list: as soon as window-switcher menus are possible, it is even more flexible because I don't even have to remember on which tag I put what

19:25 <JustineSmithies> Thanks and yes I'm not using icons now as River feels better without.

19:30 <JustineSmithies> Before I submit an issue for an enhancement feature I thought I'd ask here first to see if it was anything you'd consider ? I'd like a rule feature whereby if an app-id or title matches you could use spawn to either run a riverctl command and a bash script. For example I could then match on mpv app-id and have it the spawn a shell script that moves the window to location x,y and then resizes it.

19:35 <JustineSmithies> Also are there any plans to implement something like ristate into river to allow getting info on windows and tags ? https://gitlab.com/snakedye/ristate

19:35 <JustineSmithies> Or are things like that expected to be seperate from the river project?

19:40 <ifreund> The main reason stuff like that which can be done independently isn't built into river currently is to reduce mantainence burden as I focus on higher priority things

19:42 <ifreund> I'd like river to be a bit more batteries included before 1.0, but I'd also like to break a lot of thing before then :D

19:44 <JustineSmithies> Totally understand and thanks for explaining your reasons too.

19:55 <JustineSmithies> TBH I had always overlooked river for some reason but now that I'm getting the feel for it I absolutely love it warts and all <3

19:56 <JustineSmithies> Also if you'd told me a few years back that I'd give up on 10+ years of Arch for Void I'd have laughed you out of the romm. Funny how things change.

19:58 <leon-p> in this company I better not admint I have a system-d sticker on my laptop :P

19:58 <leon-p> *admit

19:59 <JustineSmithies> The horror lol

20:02 <JustineSmithies> Whilst you're around leon-p the tag rule you've submitted, would it be possible to add an optional argument to it so if you could specify the output that the rule would apply too and if no argument was added then it would obvs be applied the to currently focussed screen ?

20:04 <JustineSmithies> No ignore that it would probably be best left the way it is and have the user move it if need be.

20:28 <ifreund> Hmm, I guess the most flexible way to support that use-case would be to add an output rule type to assign views to an output on startup

20:59 <leon-p> yeah, I think I mentioned this earlier already as well: I think it makes more sense to keep tag and output as two separate tags

21:00 <leon-p> not only is that better code IMO, it also makes more use cases possible

22:11 <JustineSmithies> leon-p: I see you've changed the way list-rules tag displays as it now shows the binary value. Isn't that confusing when to add a rule it's expecting a decimal value ? I'd have thought as long as it's documented it would be best staying with dec ???

22:16 <leon-p> JustineSmithies: see the first collapsed review-discussion

22:22 <leon-p> FWIW once the tag implementation eventually get moves to layout generators the binary representation will be the first to go in mine. The amount of windows and tags will always be low enough that the efficiency of a bitmap isn't really worth it.

22:22 <leon-p> instead I'd like string tags

22:23 <leon-p> most importatnly, strings that are defined at runtime, not in the configuration file: I want to be able to on the fly create special tags for projects and stuff

22:27 <leon-p> I have actually already designed most of the data-structures, just waiting for the day :)