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<t0ngub1n>
hi guys
<t0ngub1n>
i have a problem running river through lightdm
<t0ngub1n>
running it as an x sessions works but resolution of river is 800 x 600
<t0ngub1n>
if i run it as a wayland session lightdm restarts itself
<t0ngub1n>
btw in x session the space around river is covered in black
<ifreund>
t0ngub1n: river doesn't support any display managers officially, what happens when you simply run river from a tty?
<ifreund>
logs would be useful here
<mohan43u>
Hi, how can I ask riverwm to not put client-side-decoration (no csd) for qemu process? I can see that we have reverctl command to add and remove appids/titles to csd list, but I'm not able to see whether "QEMU" is in the list or not.
<t0ngub1n>
ifreund it runs from tty succesfully
<t0ngub1n>
since when does qemu have csd?
<mohan43u>
t0ngub1n: I dont know, but qemu (with gtk frontend) shows window header with close button, I want to prevent it.
<ifreund>
patch gtk I guess
<t0ngub1n>
mohan43u quote from wiki: 'It is also possible to remove GTK window buttons with gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout "" '
<t0ngub1n>
River by default disables CSD (Client-side decoration) but GTK use an obsolete protocol. See issue #24 for more information.
<t0ngub1n>
that means there is no way you could disable gtk csd through riverctl
<mohan43u>
t0ngub1n: ok, will check, thanks.
<t0ngub1n>
i want to use a display manager because of an auto login feature. it is very convenient to not have to type login and password manually every time you boot
<t0ngub1n>
ifreund
<t0ngub1n>
is there any way to do hat without a dm
<mohan43u>
t0ngub1n: not gui based though, if you want, you can use greetd with wlgreet frontend as display manager.
<t0ngub1n>
does empty have autologin?
<t0ngub1n>
it only has autologin if a user does not have a password
<t0ngub1n>
sadge
<mohan43u>
t0ngub1n: I think you can add yourself to nopasswdlogin group, see their pam.d config file
<ifreund>
t0ngub1n: there's a river.desktop file in the contrib folder, I've been told it can be used with gdm and maybe others
<ifreund>
I can't help you debug display managers here though, I don't use them and don't care to learn how they work
<t0ngub1n>
ok i will try to install gdm
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<ifreund>
mohan43u: by the way, this is my personal gtk patch to disable CSD: https://0x0.st/oTaC.diff
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<mohan43u>
ifreund: yes, I see that gtk path you sent. not wonder it is yet to be merged anyay.
<mohan43u>
s/path/patch/g
<ifreund>
mohan43u: that MR is not complete and I don't have any plans to finish it currently
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<ifreund>
gtk4 makes this a non-issue I believe
<ifreund>
the patch I just sent is a 2 line change that is trivial to rebase and force disables the useless variant of CSD for wayland everywhere
<ifreund>
it's obviously not upstreamable though
<mohan43u>
what is the expectation from gtk4? obviously its a bug right? or I'm wrong?
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<mohan43u>
ifreund: gsettings chanages only removed 'close' button, but the titlebar is still visible. It seems, I have to patch my gtk
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<ifreund>
yeah, it's obviously a problem that gtk doesn't support the standard protocol and only supports an ancient kde protocol
<ifreund>
the gtk developers don't care about SSD at all though so aren't going to do anything about it themselves
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<ifreund>
iirc gtk4 improves on this case where the application doesn't provide a customized titlebar in some way, but I can't really remember the details
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<angry_vincent>
ifreund: thx for patch!
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<mohan43u>
ifreund: it will be helpful if we can forcefully disable csd if user explicitly asks to disable csd through riverctl, at the end, it is the server which is going to do decoration right? It be better than patching gtk everytime it gets updated
<ifreund>
mohan43u: I don't understand, CSD means "client side decoration" - gtk is doing the decoration
<mohan43u>
ifreund: not profecient in this area, I thought generally decerations are done by compositors/window-managers. got it. it is gtk which is doing.
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<ifreund>
The only things rendered by river are the background color and borders, everything else you see is rendered by one client or another
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<mohan43u>
ifreund: I patched gtk, title bar gone. thanks for the patch.
<ifreund>
no problem!
<ifreund>
and apologies for the trouble, river could theoretically implement the obsolete kde protocol to make gtk do the right thing out of the box but I've decided to take a somewhat idealistic stand and not do that
<angry_vincent>
some of gnome/gtk decisions regarding gui look and own standards ( that everyone must obey ) are rather questionable.
<angry_vincent>
sorry for off-topic
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<leon-p>
at least they got rid of menu bars, which are objecticely the worst UI component like ever
<ifreund>
what did they replace them with?
<leon-p>
pretty sure they try to make all the functionality accessible in areas of the UI that are thematically related, however I am not saying they are good at it :)
<leon-p>
the general idea is of course nothing new: pretty much everyone can arrive at the conclusion, that an image viewer that has a rotation feature should probably make that available as two small buttons in the image view area instead of in some nested menu noone will ever click through.
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<mohan43u>
while running river, I see a zombie child invoked from river, seems init was not reaped by river parent process?
<ifreund>
mohan43u: river will send SIGTERM to the process group init is started in on exit, it's meant to support starting long running programs from init that run for the entire river session like layout generators and status bars
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<angry_vincent>
i use simple `river` in tty to start river. apparently i need to start some dbus application, can i start river with dbus somehow?
<leon-p>
angry_vincent: I have this in my init, which keeps dbus happy enough to not complain: dbus-update-activation-environment --systemd WAYLAND_DISPLAY XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=river
<angry_vincent>
i do not use systemd, though
<angry_vincent>
i think i need to export these variables somewhere in .bash_profile, then start river with exec dbus-run-session. something like that
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<tleydxdy[m]>
--systemd tells the command to *also* pass them to systemd, for just dbus it should work the same if you leave it oht
<angry_vincent>
so, just skip "--systemd" ?
<tleydxdy[m]>
yeah, you do need to have a dbus user session started some other way tho
<tleydxdy[m]>
last I worked on this, starting dbus without systemd was a big rabbit hole
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<angry_vincent>
ok, all for tomorrow
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<novakane>
just start river with `dbus-run-session river `