sorear changed the topic of #riscv to: RISC-V instruction set architecture | https://riscv.org | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/riscv
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<dramforever> the jh7100 is pinmux whack
<dramforever> *the jh7100 pinmux is whack
<dramforever> though iirc at least on both the beaglev starlight and visionfive v1, if you're after 'secondBoot' you can pretty much just ignore the 'global mux' and the per-pin mux behind is okay
<dramforever> but then, like, all pinmux are like this....
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<courmisch> do we have any idea what the video DSP is on v2 ?
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<courmisch> is it just me or GCC-12 recognizes zb{a,b,c,s} in -march but not "b"
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<dramforever> courmisch: 'b' is not a real extension, at least not yet
<dramforever> IIRC current SiFive cores that implement 'B' actually only have Zba_Zbb
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<courmisch> hmm but the extension is ratified, is it not?
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<dramforever> Zb{a,b,c,s} are ratified, 'B' isn't
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<dramforever> I'm expecting a silicon errata from StarFive/SiFive for mistakenly claiming that it supports the nonexistent 'B' extension, otherwise, at least to me, this is just blatant noncompliance
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<courmisch> strange. is there a plan to more Zbfoo??
<courmisch> also makes the HWCAP lack of Z* support more pressing
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<dramforever> there was a lot more in Zb* but they were mostly sort of 'weird'
<dramforever> check out the 0.93 version
<dramforever> there are a bunch of generalizations of bit shuffling stuff like grev and gorc, bit matrix operations, some (imho a bit questionable complexity-wise) ternary operations
<dramforever> and i think 'they' decided that they'd pick out some obviously useful subsets first to ratify
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<jrtc27> starfive say rv64gc on their kickstarter page...
<jrtc27> but yes, sifive are misleading on their own u74 page
<jrtc27> the u74 manual at least says rv64gc_zba_zbb_sscofpmf these days
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<dramforever> To clarify, since I haven't got the hardware I might be mistaken, but from information I got from a friend who got a beta hardware of some sort, on the VisionFive 2's U74 cores misa.B is 1
<dramforever> which is, just wrong
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<dramforever> s/VisionFive 2/JH7110/
<dramforever> on the other hand though, could zba_zbb have been what got the jh7100 a significantly better benchmark score?
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<dramforever> oops i mean jh7110
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<jrtc27> misa isn't visible outside of M-mode anyway and doesn't handle Z*/S*, it's basically useless
<dramforever> that's true, we just need to get the fdt to say something like riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc_zba_zbb_sscofpmf"
<dramforever> but comparing it with other sifive docs it does seem to indicate support for zba_zbb
<dramforever> just looked again, their dt included in the itb actually says riscv,isa = "rv64imafdcbsux"; *facepalm* hope they're working on fixing it
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<jrtc27> x has never been a valid extension...
<jrtc27> s and u haven't really but people at least liked to think they were
<jrtc27> but x...
<jrtc27> x what?..
<cousteau> ...maybe it's x followed by an empty string?
<cousteau> RV32GC_Xhwacha_Xds9k_X_Xternary
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<conchuod> only X I have seen so far is a ventana thing
<conchuod> and that was only in some qemu patches I think
<conchuod> and obv. that was _xventanafoo
<conchuod> not a raw x
<jrtc27> yes, that's my point
<jrtc27> xfoo is fine
<jrtc27> a lone x is like a lone z
<jrtc27> it makes no sense
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<conchuod> Ye, was agreeing w/ you
<conchuod> rv64imafdcbsux looks like a joke with that last 3..
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